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      JohnnyP
      last edited by A Former User

      This is not acceptable, the .vivaldi_reporting_data file should not be in the profile root folder (%UserProfile%).
      The user profile root folder is for files and folders to be seen and managed by it's respective user!

      A file like .vivaldi_reporting_data which is to be used on behind the scenes operation belongs in the %UserProfile%\AppData\Roaming or %UserProfile%\AppData\Local folders.

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      • kahukura
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        kahukura
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        Please file a bug report so Devs can have a look. Thank you!

        The Earth without Art is just "Eh".

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          LonM Soprano Patron Moderator @JohnnyP
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          @JohnnyP I have confirmed this and a bug report is now in the tracker.

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            hunster5
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            It looks like a tracking file to monitor the user. I'm not amused. How can i disable this?

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            • kahukura
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              kahukura @hunster5
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              @hunster5 Please see "How we count users" which might be related to that file.

              The Earth without Art is just "Eh".

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                Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters
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                Even if it's related to user counting, which is fair enough, and I don't mind at all - they should have the common decency to clean up after themselves ๐Ÿ—‘

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                • kahukura
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                  kahukura
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                  Depends on where you put the logic. Leave locally to let the user see what you are doing or as you suggest send data to the host with little to no traces at all. The latter would be more suspicious, don't you think?

                  The Earth without Art is just "Eh".

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                    Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @kahukura
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                    @kahukura There's a place for application-related data files, and that's in AppData and the application data folder. It's not in the user profile folder or anywhere else on the file system.

                    This is not about "transparency". There's hundreds of data files in the Vivaldi data folder already, are you going to go through all of those as well, to find out what is collected?

                    This is about not cleaning up the mess left behind by your code.

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                      kahukura @Pathduck
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                      @Pathduck I did not code this procedure. As we are having a bug report now, let's see what the Devs will decide and do.

                      The Earth without Art is just "Eh".

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                        Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @kahukura
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                        @kahukura I didn't mean to say you wrote it - I used "your" in a more general sense. But I see now that it could be misunderstood, sorry for that ๐Ÿ™‚

                        Yeah, let's wait until we see what the devs do. Until then I will just keep deleting the file myself ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                        • DarkUltra
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                          DarkUltra
                          last edited by DarkUltra

                          I did this

                          attrib +h +s .vivaldi_reporting_data

                          and now it is hopefully hidden forever

                          update:
                          its been a week and the file is still hidden, yay

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                            JohnnyP @DarkUltra
                            last edited by JohnnyP

                            @DarkUltra That just hides the file. The file is still where it is not supposed to be!
                            And for me, that creates an additional problem because it's include on the backup of my personal folder.

                            Anyway, I'm no longer using vivaldi! Have switched to Firefox.

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                              foulke
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                              Hi. So, how has this become "Resolved"? It's still happening in v2.9. Am I missing something? Thanks.

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                                foulke
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                                OK. I was thinking it just happened to me. Thanks for the reply.

                                BTW, what are the repercussions of simply deleting the file? Is it recreated every time Vivaldi opens?

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                                  LonM Soprano Patron Moderator @foulke
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                                  @foulke Yes, it will be recreated. But that will impact vivaldi's ability to count users easily.

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                                    Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @LonM
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                                    @LonM If you don't mind, could you look up the status of the report you made?

                                    I still think this file should be written to the Vivaldi profile and not the user's home.

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                                      LonM Soprano Patron Moderator @Pathduck
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                                      @Pathduck No progress on it. The devs have decided to modify it so it includes a message describing the purpose of the file, but they haven't yet moved it to a better location.

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                                        foulke
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                                        It includes a message? Where exactly? I've read the file and it's quite innocent. It's just aesthetically fugly.

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                                          LonM Soprano Patron Moderator @foulke
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                                          @foulke oops... I said too much ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

                                          Maybe that change never made it to a public build yet.

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                                            Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @foulke
                                            last edited by Pathduck

                                            @foulke It contains the following message:

                                            "description":"This file contains data used for counting users. If you are worried about privacy implications, please see https://help.vivaldi.com/article/how-we-count-our-users/"
                                            

                                            I'm on the latest snapshot, maybe it's different on Stable.

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