What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
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@danielson , no idea
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Thank you for sharing. I was always wondering how Vivaldi was generating an income. Good to know.
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Very few sites don't work better than usual with Vivaldi, but maybe those sites want to intrude on me more than I want. Vivaldi is beautiful, fast, and comfortable. I recommend Vivaldi often to others. SandyR
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Every time you search using one of the pre-installed search engines, you’re helping us grow, one search at a time. Currently, we work with DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, Startpage, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex.
Isn't Yandex not one of the default search options?
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@leo32345 My understanding is: That depends on what language you're using. The Russian-language Vivaldi has Yandex pre-installed, the English-language Vivaldi doesn't.
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Everything mentioned above is good . But, Can we get a bigger storage for Webmail which is currently limited to 5Gbs.
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@deepashkatal, although 5Gb is a good amount for normal use by most users and similar in other free mail services, it would be more appropriate to ask, if you can increase the space with a paid plan, since Vivaldi is a small cooperative and hosting space costs money.
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Interestingly, there is quite some buzz that Google search quality has dwindled the past years as people figure out and game their algorithm, and Google aren't keeping up to tabs with this cat and mouse game like in the past. They may find it more profitable to push Google Ads than to work on their search engine?
There are tons of discussions about this over the past five years. One that rings particularly well with me is this and the "search terms + reddit" phenomenon as I no longer trust Google results like I once did. https://dkb.io/post/google-search-is-dying
At the same time, DuckDuckGo is gaining users! They're in turn a meta search engine with the bulk of regular web search results via Bing, but numerous other partnerships, like with Stack Overflow for the software developers among us.
So, at least from the look of things, Vivaldi is choosing the right side here.
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@northgrove funny you mention Google search not working very well any more as I was complaining about that to my wife a couple of days ago - although I'm my case I had tried with DuckDuckGo and then again with Google.
I'm a net user from the very early days, and when we first hooked up my wife said she was impressed how quickly I could come back with answers and facts while we were chatting online. Fast forward to this week and I spent a couple of hours trying to find out literally anything about some pioneering technologies used in a certain brand of TV sets in the 1980s. Now this is the kind of nerd-fest which would have returned all sorts of catalogues, fan sites, tech reports, images, old ads, etc. etc. not too long ago. I have been able to find user guides and technical specifications about the most obscure bits of household electronics, kitchen gadgets, industrial kit etc. with only minimal effort in the past - so to literally draw a blank this time about iconic home tech which was very popular in its day is really really strange.
Instead all I kept getting was online shopping for current TV models of any old company or the general history of the brand in question. And this is something I've noticed during the last couple of years - you can never find facts, these days you can only ever find stupid online shopping for things or news stories. Search really is not what it used to be!
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@northgrove The Google Search is good for those who want to buy anything and be tracked all the time. Google is a "I tell you, what you need! Buy! BUY! BUYYYY!" engine.
Real Vivaldi users really dislike bad "search" results.
I am happy Vivaldi cut any relation to Google search.
But do you think that Google is a means of business for Vivaldi.
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@mossman , for direct questions I use Andisearch, it's an AI privacy focused search assistant which "understand" the concept of your search, with reader mode in the search results, that is, you can read the content of a page in the search results-
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@northgrove said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:
Vivaldi is choosing the right side here.
How's Vivaldi choosing sides here? Seems like a business deal: DuckDuckGo's in Vivaldi, because DDD pays Vivaldi money. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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@DoctorG said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:
Real Vivaldi users really dislike bad "search" results.
"Real Vivaldi users" is a mindset we should avoid! It quickly falls into petty and unhealthy us-and-themism.
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@Catweazle said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:
@mossman , for direct questions I use Andisearch, it's an AI privacy focused search assistant which "understand" the concept of your search, with reader mode in the search results, that is, you can read the content of a page in the search results-
Well nice try - but that just came back with the current year models of that brand plus the same generic "history of TV" type pages and so on I'd already found during my own search.
I have to say that for specific searches I usually go to Wikipedia or otherwise specialist sites such as IMDb for film and TV. Search engines just aren't very good at searching these days.
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@mossman , in Andi the first result of this type is normally the Wikipedia, apart it don't work so good when you put only a word as search concept, the best results are when you ask directly with a frase, like askung a person.. It isn't like in other search engines, working with a base of keywords. It understand what you are asking, you can even chat with Andi.
It has also taken me a while to understand how it works effectively, by the way, it also supports bangs like DDG and also offers the possibility of searching with other search engines, including DDG among others. -
@Folgore101 said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:
Nice article to share.
Indeed. I just shared it with the Solus OS forum. We have a good many Vivaldi users there.
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I love it. Never had this level of enthusiasm for a browser since I discovered opera 3.0.
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Refreshing.
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