What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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well, I've tried but instead of about:blank it goes to chromeextension://gibberishabout:blank and doesn't work
that was the case for setting homepage to about:blank and launching with homepageSo it does work? Because I otherwise can't reproduce a situation where it doesn't.
for news I have smart rss from chroperas store, I HATE feedly webapp and preffer having no sync over struggling with that thing so it's pretty fine for me
and actually, "native" solution in vivaldi wouldn't be native anyway as it would be js so performance would be on the same level as extension varying only on code qualityAh, I just assumed you use Feedly because you referenced it in your initial post. Apologies.
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it bugged when I only set homepage to about:blank and startup to homepage
And I mentioned feedly as having some usable front end for cloud news aggregator would be lovely, but I can live without it absolutely fine
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There are still some features I want (multiple sessions, PLEASE!) but Vivaldi is my browser now and has been for some time, not sure precisely when I stopped treating it as just for testing purposes, but I use it for everything. It seems nowhere I visit doesn't like Vivaldi.
It's not ready to roll out to friends and family but for me, it's already the best browser.
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The title bar thing sounds good, thanks.
Now the second thing is if I'm filling out a form for oh, an hour or four accidentally hit the "page next" or any other button that changes the url, I'm used to (with Opera 12) hitting the back key and no harm no foul every single keystroke is there and I don't lose a thing.It was be 12 hours and 323 pages later but it always goes back to exactly where you were in filling out that form. Important if you work on the web.
No other browser does this. Chrome and Mozilla play at it, Moz got it to work for textboxes and Chrome seems to change every day which tells me they're trying, but opera (12) is flawless at it and has been for around a decade.
I've used Opera since version 5 and there was a time when I didn't even bother using any other browser. Now I can't use any other browser because not only of them gets this right. Fix that and I can make it my daily driver, and would like it.
TIll then, I'm stuck on o.v12. I doubt Chr. or Moz. will get it working before you can, it's not the hardest thing to do.
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This is the sad thing about the death of Classic Opera. Opera wrote their browser with the needs of the user in mind. Google write their browser with the needs of Google in mind.
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Ctrl + click and mmb + click opens links in background tab, and in the latest version of Vivaldi, you can right click > open in background tab.
Actually on Mac under the newest available version (Vivaldi 1.0.219.53) . Neither of those work, ctrl or cmd click or mmb+click, does not open a tab in the background and there is no option for right click -> open in background tab.
Most Chrome extensions with UI integration are now compatible with Vivaldi since release 1.0.249.12
Maybe, again a Mac only issue but it's not the case with a lot of the applications I'm using. Some of them work, some don't.
he close tab button is on the right side of tabs for me. Unless you mean a single close tab button on the far right side of all open tabs? I have no reason to believe there won't eventually be an option for that in a future release. It might (that's a strong might, like it's almost definitely not) also be possible to do this with some custom CSS, but I'm unable to try anything with that right now. Check out this thread.
I'll check it out, thanks. It's definitely on the left side of the tab on Mac though.
With a little bit of work, you can use custom thumbnails in the speed dial, and I have absolutely no problem instantly recognizing what my speed dial entries are with nothing but the default thumbnails. But, again, I have no reason to believe there won't eventually be an option to do this from the UI in a future release.
I'll check it out and I'll probably end up doing, however a UI feature for this is really needed, as again alternative extensions/browsers let you do this from the UI and have way more flexibility doing it (using web hosted images etc).
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I'll check it out, thanks. It's definitely on the left side of the tab on Mac though.
Ah, okay, I'm totally unfamiliar with Mac: Linux is my main platform right now. So, sorry about that false information, then. It seems pretty inconsistent for Mac to display the tab close button on the left but on the right on Windows and Linux. I can see why you would find that annoying. I tried using some custom CSS to put the close tab button on the far right of the tab bar, but with every new tab, there's a new tab close button, so the buttons ended up stacking on top of each other and closing a background tab rather than the active tab. It's possible there was a way to work around that with Javascript, but I'm not comfortable enough with that language to try anything.
However, after reading your reply, I was able to move my tab close button to the left side of tabs without any problems. Which means you can definitely move them to the right side of tabs on a Mac. I don't know where these files are located on your platform, so you'll need to adjust for that, but here's what you can try:
- (On Linux) Open directory: /opt/vivaldi-snapshot/resources/vivaldi/style/
- Open "common.css"
- At the very top of the file, add:```
@import "custom.css";
5) Paste this code into the file:
.close {
position: relative !important;
left: 75% !important;
background-color: white !important;
}You may need to adjust the value of left, but right: 75% moved it to the left side of tabs for me, so left should work for you. I added a background colour because once I had moved the button, it was placed on top of text. In order to see it more clearly, I made the background colour of the close button white. You can either remove that property altogether or use your own background colour. Vivaldi will need to be restarted after changes are made to these files. You can find the installation directory of Vivaldi by pasting vivaldi://about in your address bar, it will be listed under "Executable Path." –--- The inability to open a link in a new background tab is probably just a bug that will be fixed in a later release, sorry to hear that none of the current known workarounds works on a Mac, though. And I agree completely with your statement about having the ability to customize the speed dial more effectively from the UI. But, for now, I can live with doing it manually.
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Actually on Mac under the newest available version (Vivaldi 1.0.219.53) . Neither of those work, ctrl or cmd click or mmb+click, does not open a tab in the background and there is no option for right click -> open in background tab.
Command⌘-click is working fine for for me on Mac, and so is the RMB menu.
However, you're not on the latest snapshot if you're at 1.0.219.53.
The latest (since last Friday) is 1.0.258.3. -
- single click to open a bookmark
That is what keeps me from switching to Vivaldi.
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Try middle-click.
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@booBot:
On topic (of what is stopping me from using Vivaldi):
- its' being based on webkit.
Baring any major course changes in Blink and Chromium's own development or licensing, Blink doesn't seem likely to be dropped by Vivaldi anytime in the foreseeable future, and the original post framed this as a thread for reasons people "haven't completely made the switch yet" (emphasis added). I wouldn't recommend holding your breath for a shift away from Blink/WebKit.
Still, I'll bite: What's your objection to WebKit/Blink?
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@Sajadi:
Right now that annoying bug which makes at some certain point after heavy usage all sites which are opened in a new tab with either middle click or right mouse context menu not rendering properly anymore and the tabs stay blank.
Middle click things are already fixed internally. Just wait patiently for the next snapshot
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Sorry, I read too fast and I focused to the middle button part, that's indeed fixed on today's build.
Frankly I never faced the blank tab part, likely because different habits…
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During the last 30 days I have used Vivaldi a lot, checking every new snapshot for novelties and improvements, at the end of this extended trial period I have to say that I will stop using Vivaldi for the time being because as much as I love the project - it would be better to call it the dream of the old Opera under a new name - the lack of some basic features make Vivaldi a waste of my time.
1 - Search features:
(a) I don't use Google, I don't want to use Google, it is even painful for my fingers to type G… - but even if I remove G from the search engines list, when I use the right click menu I still get the ¨search Google for¨ option, that option should belong to my default search engine
(b) the way I browse the web I absolutely need ¨context search¨ from right click menu, it was a feature - one of the countless - invented by the old Opera, nowadays I can have that feature with the new Opera, with Firefox, with Qupzilla, but it is not present in Vivaldi and the Chromium extension to emulate it it's not very practical.
(c) please give me alt+enter or whatever to open a new tab from the search box, with DuckDuckGo extension not working from keyboard in Vivaldi the lack of this feature is an authentic PITA
2 - Flash videos not going fullscreen:
I would happily live without Flash, alas I am a baseball nut and MLB.TV continues to use Flash, so this is a major bug for me.Of course there are other features lacking but those listed above are the ones making Vivaldi useless to me, I will continue checking every new snapshot, but until the features/bugs I have highlighted will not be implemented/solved I will stop using Vivaldi.
I hope one day Vivaldi will be my only browser, just like the old Opera was for more than a decade. -
There are two thing i'm really missing:
- possibility to set up default page scale (i'm using displays with high ppi, so with Opera i was using 150% scaling by default)
change scale for every tab is very inconvenient; - possibility to synchronize bookmarks across different devices;
- possibility to set up default page scale (i'm using displays with high ppi, so with Opera i was using 150% scaling by default)
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@booBot:
My main objection is to be in the very same boat of [in]security and lack of privacy as under google chrome.
Right now my working browser is Opera v12.17 and my back-up browser is PaleMoon.
I did try comparing Vivaldi with both - even if not for the insecurity/privacy issues - I'd never use a browser as slow (and resource-hungry) as Vivaldi is…Resource complaints about Chromium have some merit, but Google is working on reducing that resource hungriness. However, I'm not convinced by your "insecurity/privacy" complaint. Chrome/Chromium is generally considered good concerning general web threats (1, 2), and if you're alluding to a suspicion of yours about Google's own intentions: My understanding is that Vivaldi is based on open source code from the Chromium branch, not built using any closed-source Chrome binaries from Google*, so take from that what you will, if you're thinking about this from the "open source = more trustworthy" angle. (Although, realistically, relying on the "many eyes" notion is not a guarantee that critical flaws will be found in a timely manner – e.g. OpenSSL's Heartbleed vulnerability and Bash's Shellshock vulnerability going unknown for years.)
However, you originally identified just WebKit as your objection, so you seem to be jumping around a bit. You still haven't explained your specific objection to WebKit/Blink. That's a particular component, not a catch-all for "things I don't like about Chrome".
*(As I mentioned at the time, Vivaldi appears to never have downloaded the Voice Search binary blob that caused controversy this past June for Chromium. Google removed the Voice Search binary-component-downloading from Chromium, following the understandable criticism the practice attracted.)
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What prevents me from using V more? Honestly, Flickr. Works fine in Opera or Firefox, but in V I keep hitting their "bad panda" error message.
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What prevents me from using V more? Honestly, Flickr. Works fine in Opera or Firefox, but in V I keep hitting their "bad panda" error message.
I had no problem viewing Flikr in Vivaldi, though I am not a member. Is it only when you try to log-in that you get this error message?
Opera 12.17 gives an unsupported browser message
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I am heavily use such type of search - copy text and then middle click.
It uses the first search engine and opens a new tab.
Today (trying to migrate from Opera) I found out that it does not work((((Vivaldi 1.0.303.22 (Developer Build) dev (64-bit)
Revision efb5203d03f2593ca842c2c6ce5a7aada7b61423
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On topic:
2 things which make me switch. First one, and most important one, is lack of a fast access to bookmarks menu. You either need to have the side panel opened (eeeewww) or an extra bar below the adress bar (eeewwww). An icon or something, after clicking which your bookmarks would pop, like in Opera 12, Maxthon or Firefox. I want a minimalist browser (max 2 bars) with easy bookmarks browsing. Second is the side panel, it can't be permanently disabled/hidden, which is totally annoying.