What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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Actually, I got another one: The url matching is as crap as in all other browsers. If I enter "[servername]" I want to be taken to said server and not a google search! At least do an NSLOOKUP first before throwing my internal server names at google!
Even worse, in chrome you can type "[servername]/" to prevent a search, in Vivaldi you have to enter "http://[servername]".
Take a look to the settings. There's a "disable search on addresfield" setting, now
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The thing I'd like to have is the ability to back up bookmarks to HTML. I managed to do that in earlier releases when the vivaldi:bookmarks page worked and allowed you to do that. So I do have the option to import the HTML file I saved from then, in the event of having to do a clean install.
That said, I have no problem using Vivaldi as default. I can live without custom buttons, extension icons etc, for now. But it will be good when those are introduced to the browser.
Like most people who post on here, I've had a few glitches along the way using Vivaldi. But that's to be expected with something so new. A learning curve.
Using the latest Snapshot, 1.0.178.2, it's impressive to see the progress made so far, and in quite a short space of time by the Vivaldi Team.
Overall, I've found that using Vivaldi since its first release has been a relatively painless experience. I've not had endless crashes, in fact hardly any at all, and have found the browser to be reasonably quick when in use, and getting quicker. This has instilled a confidence in me to use the browser on a daily basis. To trust it. Personally, I see no reason not to use Vivaldi as default.
Others will have different experiences to mine, for sure. So I can understand why some users are not quite ready to take the leap just yet. We all have different needs. But for something that's not even a Beta version yet, it's a more than decent browser. A credit to the developers. It's a solid product.
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@serious:
Actually, I got another one: The url matching is as crap as in all other browsers. If I enter "[servername]" I want to be taken to said server and not a google search! At least do an NSLOOKUP first before throwing my internal server names at google!
But, wouldn't that feature be annoying in many cases? Suppose I want to search Google for "jupiter". I type in "jupiter" in my address bar but, oops, I'm taken to our internal server jupiter.example.com ! I didn't know such a server existed . . . .
Currently, many browsers, including Vivaldi, treat the string as a server name only when it includes a dot "." or other special characters. For example, type "bbc.co.uk" into the address field and press return on Vivaldi. You'll be taken to```
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@ davesnothere;
I've tried the Bookmarks - Import - Vivaldi option several times. All I get is a rotating arrow with 'Import in progress' Nothing happens, it just hangs there. Only way to stop it is to re-start Vivaldi. So it doesn't work for me.
I have no problem importing bookmarks from HTML. It would be nice to have the option to export bookmarks to HTML as well. Just personal preference.
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@ davesnothere;
I've tried the Bookmarks - Import - Vivaldi option several times. All I get is a rotating arrow with 'Import in progress' Nothing happens,
Importing from where?
I imported 1,147 bookmarks in 80 folders from Opera 12.17. It took a minute or two. Maybe you're just not waiting long enough? Some users have tens of thousands of bookmarks. To see how many you have, open bookmarks.adr in NotePad and do a find and replace of #URL with #URL
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1. No Email client
2. Broken import from Opera 12.16 (Linux version)
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@ Pesala;
From the bookmarks page, if you click Import and then the drop down menu for the browser list Vivaldi is listed with the other browsers, which I think is what davesnothere is referring to ?
Selecting that option, Vivaldi, you get the box asking what you want to import. Bookmarks, Passwords and History. Select bookmarks and then import. The box that opens says 'Import bookmarks and settings - Import in progress' and the rotating arrow. Following your suggestion in the previous post I let the process run for ten minutes but nothing happens.
To answer your question about importing from where? … that's the confusing part to me, I'm not sure where it's importing them from. But the option is there.
I have 120 bookmarks for Vivaldi in six folders, so not that many, and lots of them are specific to the browser so I don't want to lose them. I was able to export them to HTML from a previous build and can easily import them back to Vivaldi should I need to, because that option is available. I don't want to import bookmarks from another browser, they're not all the same. That's why I'd also like to have the option to export them to HTML every once in while.
I don't know if I've cleared that up. I hope I have. It's really not a problem as long as I have the HTML file saved. But for those users who do prefer to simply export their bookmarks to HTML, and can't do it, it might be.
Thank you for the suggestions.
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@ Pesala;
From the bookmarks page, if you click Import and then the drop down menu for the browser list Vivaldi is listed with the other browsers, which I think is what davesnothere is referring to ?
Why would you want to import bookmarks from Vivaldi to Vivaldi? It doesn't make any sense.
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Myself too I'm quite pessimistic about the ability of any Chromium based browser to be snappy.
In the recent days there's some hope though, as I'm trying out the Baidu Browser, which seems to be quite responsive and quick – much better than Chroimum, actually quite close to Palemoon's performance.
So maybe Vivaldi can make it too...
Ik hoop het! 
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@ Pesala;
Exactly. I don't want to import from Vivaldi to Vivaldi, but tried it after I read davesnothere's post. Makes no sense to me either, but the option is there.
It's no problem. More curious than anything.
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Well, hopefully the option to export to HTML will be added in the future. Just seems the easiest way to me.
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To clarify, MY interpretation of that menu choice is that we might be able to use it to import from another Vivaldi installation, which I believe that I did say earlier.
Import and export from/to vivaldi (the ones from quick commands) are about settings not bookmarks.
The import function from V->file->import, I believe, is meant to import the Vivaldi bookmarks/history/passwords from the default install path to a different vivaldi installation, say a standalone or portable. That makes sense to me.
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All a bit clearer to me now. Good input and info from all concerned and good to see that, maybe, exporting settings (including bookmarks) could be on the horizon. Fingers crossed. Although syncing plays a big part in backing up nowadays, which is fine, it's still good to be able to save stuff to a file. Old habits and all that.
Thanks again.
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Trying to use V often but tend to revert to O12.17 a lot.
Mail client coming soon - great. Just make it compatible with importing from Opera 12x (or maybe simply drop in the 'mail' folder?).
Like the Opera touches like page zoom bar, display/hide images, hide/display sidebar, plus the new 'Page Actions' options - cool.
Would likes:
Customizable UI - add/delete/arrange buttons (above all a Bookmarks button in the navigation pane).
Bookmarks drive me insane - must to sortable in various ways and easier to add into a specific folder from the address bar.
Bookmark nicknames do not work for me.
Extensions (but I guess these will be developed by Dev's over time).
Session manager.
Password button and ctrl+enter option.
Drop down page history button viz good 'ol Opera.
Resizable Speed Dial panes so I can fit like 30 without scrolling.
Opera 29 has a nice feature of selectable views for the Speed Dial panes (e.g. display simply the primary URL in a coloured pane rather than a snapshot of the actual site (this saves on the need for a narrative underneath each pane).
Display page loading progress (number of elements / images etc) within the address bar option (I interact with many slow networks and would like to have an idea of progress).Cosmetics:
Tabs are all squared off and boring - Opera has appealing rounded edges (or maybe that's just the skin I'm using?)
Skins!Get (particularly) Bookmarks and Speed Dial sorted out plus the mail client, and I will probably make a full time switch to V.
I am very optimistic about this Browser.
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As incredible as it may seem, I actually forgot that MANY users are still on Opera 12.17 et prior, and that they have built-in email.
Hence, I kept asking myself, "why do people keep saying lack of email has something to do with their failure to migrate fully to Vivalid? NO browser has email any more, so what does that have to do with it?" And then I realized that, wait, there are people married to a browser that DOES have email, and that's OldeOpera!
Unfortunately, tho I am DYING to have email in my browser again, I did not mention this as a pre-req for my adopting Vivaldi as a default, since I already DID make it default over three months ago, jumping from Opium, which, of course, did not have email either. My default email client, in case anyone wants to know, is OPERA 12.17, since the greybeards in the the ivory towers over at Opera ASA never saw fit to fix their stupid damn installer for the Opera Mail app so that it could be set as MAPI client. Hence, the only smooth and intuitive email client I can have as MAPI is Opera 12.17. VIVALDI DEVELOPERS, PLEASE RESCUE ME FROM THIS!!
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Hence, I kept asking myself, "why do people keep saying lack of email has something to do with their failure to migrate fully to Vivalid? NO browser has email any more, so what does that have to do with it?"
That's not quite right. Seamonkey is a browser suite, which integrates a full featured mail and news client (and a feed reader, an IRC client and a HTML editor).
Unlike Opera 12, it is maintained and updated to support current web standards. It also has a smaller footprint than all the chromium based browsers, the installation size is below 75 MB with half of it being the XUL renderer. Vivaldi TP3 is at least doubling that.
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Hence, I kept asking myself, "why do people keep saying lack of email has something to do with their failure to migrate fully to Vivalid? NO browser has email any more, so what does that have to do with it?"
That's not quite right. Seamonkey is a browser suite, which integrates a full featured mail and news client (and a feed reader, an IRC client and a HTML editor).
Unlike Opera 12, it is maintained and updated to support current web standards. It also has a smaller footprint than all the chromium based browsers, the installation size is below 75 MB with half of it being the XUL renderer. Vivaldi TP3 is at least doubling that.
This is a common error in thinking. The mail client in Seamonkey is in no way actually integrated. It does not share the interface with the browser at all. Ever. It installs at the same time as the browser, can easily be switched to from the browser, and shows new mail notifications in the browser interface, and that is the extend of the "integration." It is not possible to see your mail folders/lists and the web or browser tabs at the same time, and hence there is no integration.
I actually have a more visually "integrated" experience by using the right 75% of my screen for Vivaldi and the left 25% for Opera Mail (folders and mail list visible) with the two apps overlapped such that when the browser is focused I can see mail folders and list, and when the mail is focused, I can see browser tabs (and if I wished, panel as well).
When actual mail integration returns to the web in Vivaldi, that is the type of access a user will have - mail to one side and always visible, at the same time bookmarks and tabs are visible in the same interface, with the only swtiching being between whether the central display of the UI is showing the web, or the content of an email.
People need to stop saying SeaMonkey is an integrated mail/browser solution. It's not. It's just one installer for two co-branded, switchable apps that you can open at the same time from a single desktop shortcut.
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This is a common error in thinking. The mail client in Seamonkey is in no way actually integrated. It does not share the interface with the browser at all. Ever. It installs at the same time as the browser, can easily be switched to from the browser, and shows new mail notifications in the browser interface, and that is the extend of the "integration." It is not possible to see your mail folders/lists and the web or browser tabs at the same time, and hence there is no integration.
Just enter chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul into the address bar of of the Seamonkey browser. That's what I meant. From a technical viewpoint the mailer is completely integrated. It's just rendered into a separate window.
Of course, the user interface is very different from Opera, it resembles the Netscape legacy, which BTW had not tabs and and no sidebar. The current user base likes it this way and the developers don't seem to have any intentions to alienate it like Opera ASA, so it won't change.
With a bit of XUL magic this could be customized without having to solve huge technical problems, because the mail client is already there. Actually turning the Seamonkey UI into an Opera clone may be even less effort than turning Chromium into one or trying to reimplement everything from scratch like Otter.
People need to stop saying SeaMonkey is an integrated mail/browser solution. It's not. It's just one installer for two co-branded, switchable apps that you can open at the same time from a single desktop shortcut.
Seamonkey is a single application with a UNIX-style multiple-window interface. Yes, no MDI available and tabs only inside the browser. But there is no separate applications nor co-branding going on.
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It would seem you are right - there are not two apps. There is only one primary .exe - which in a way makes it worse, since a true MDI implementation is not even NEEDED - all they have to do is implement a mail panel. But for some reason, they won't do it. So you have a single .exe masquerading as two distinct apps. Perhaps they can't do multi-threading in a way that allows browsing and mail to function at the same time, and so they prevent you from having both open at one - which, still, is an absence of integration.
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Seamonkey is a single application with a UNIX-style multiple-window interface. Yes, no MDI available and tabs only inside the browser. But there is no separate applications nor co-branding going on.
In short they are two different applications badly glued together, no matter the technical details about how this is done.
I can't see any advantage using Seamonkey over Operamail + Vivaldi
With a bit of XUL magic this could be customized without having to solve huge technical problems, because the mail client is already there.
Even doing it it's still the netscape communicator email client, a program from another era that has nothing to do with a modern email client like M2
