Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?
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Hello, and sorry if it was asked and or answered before.
Several times a day when i am browsing, appears something like the image shows...
Why can be that? because it happened with a vbulletin forum , sometimes with a local newspaper website wich reload every certain time, also with tweetdeck...
Thank you a lot and have a great weekend!
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It is not normal. What extensions do you use? It may be due to one of these.
Although Vivaldi is compatible with the Chrome Store extensions, some of them can cause conflicts. -
@carlosoctavio I have this issue occassionally with DDG Search in Private Browsing up to the previous Snapshot release. Registered as a bug, VB-43493.
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@catweazle I am experiencing the same problem - no extensions. (Squeaky-clean new (4-week-old) Surface Pro 4 (i5/8/256) with all updates, including this week's patches.)
I'm trying Vivaldi for the first time, and I don't know if I can even make it through my first day due to the severity of the problems I'm encountering.
So far, I've had to deal with almost a half-dozen dead birds so far this morning, in barely an hour of browser use and visits to only a handful of sites. In some cases, the site loads OK, but dead-birds when I switch back to the tab. For others, the site will load, and then dead-bird before I've even finished reading the article on the page.
In addition, it seems that Vivaldi, like Edge, is too CPU-hungry, causing the SP4 to run its fan with only six or seven tabs open - none of which are doing anything like 4K video decoding or anything else that should spike the CPU. (FWIW, Firefox post-quantum is capable of at least 200 tabs w/o running the fan, and I've run the pre-Quantum version with over 800 tabs restored in a session w/o continuously running the fan. Of course, the latter is only possible with something like TabMix plus to provide some way to manage that many tabs - one reason I was eager to try Vivaldi was the hope that it would allow me to organize and use sessions of hundreds of tabs/sites, but good tab management isn't particularly useful if I can't actually run enough tabs to need it...)
So far, Vivaldi looks like a good design concept that is far too poorly implemented to actually be usable for anything. That's a shame. I'll give it the rest of the day, but I'm not hopeful that it will get another chance, as Vivaldi is just way too damn unstable to be useful as it is right now. (I was planning on giving Vivaldi a week, but the dead birds are making me pretty sure I'm only going to put up with this crap for a day...)
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@dub said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
@catweazle I am experiencing the same problem - no extensions. (Squeaky-clean new (4-week-old) Surface Pro 4 (i5/8/256) with all updates, including this week's patches.)
I'm trying Vivaldi for the first time, and I don't know if I can even make it through my first day due to the severity of the problems I'm encountering.
So far, I've had to deal with almost a half-dozen dead birds so far this morning, in barely an hour of browser use and visits to only a handful of sites. In some cases, the site loads OK, but dead-birds when I switch back to the tab. For others, the site will load, and then dead-bird before I've even finished reading the article on the page.
In addition, it seems that Vivaldi, like Edge, is too CPU-hungry, causing the SP4 to run its fan with only six or seven tabs open - none of which are doing anything like 4K video decoding or anything else that should spike the CPU. (FWIW, Firefox post-quantum is capable of at least 200 tabs w/o running the fan, and I've run the pre-Quantum version with over 800 tabs restored in a session w/o continuously running the fan. Of course, the latter is only possible with something like TabMix plus to provide some way to manage that many tabs - one reason I was eager to try Vivaldi was the hope that it would allow me to organize and use sessions of hundreds of tabs/sites, but good tab management isn't particularly useful if I can't actually run enough tabs to need it...)
So far, Vivaldi looks like a good design concept that is far too poorly implemented to actually be usable for anything. That's a shame. I'll give it the rest of the day, but I'm not hopeful that it will get another chance, as Vivaldi is just way too damn unstable to be useful as it is right now. (I was planning on giving Vivaldi a week, but the dead birds are making me pretty sure I'm only going to put up with this crap for a day...)
Very strange behavior, I don't have seen a dead birdy since 2 years, using Vivaldi since the beginning visiting 800-1000 pages /day.
Open the task manager and look which processes are running if you don't use Vivaldi, if security soft is incompatible (reportet issues with Avast, Kaspesky and Malwarebytes), If running update agents from other browsers.
Vivaldi is stable like a rock and this problems I think, don't came from the browser -
@dub I think something is seriously broken with the version 2.0 stable release. Ever since it updated yesterday I'm getting the same kind of CPU use and black bird issues you are. It's done it on Facebook and Google Maps. Maps in particular is so bad that the entire browser locks up and then the screen will start flashing between a completely black screen and the web browser (which oddly remains responsive, meaning I can click links and whatnot during the 1/2 second it's shown).
I have the snapshot also installed as a standalone and it does not appear to have these issues.
I've also noticed when opening a lot of background tabs in rapid succession, the browser will just completely quit, and when I reload it, it has no memory of previously opened tabs during that session. The snapshot does this occasionally (and it was a known issue for a while) but it always immediately would re-load whatever tabs were open during the crash.
Vivaldi, even the stable branch is very much a work in progress browser, but this is the first time since it was first released that I've had such show-stopping bugs.
Edit to add: I just remembered that these issues were in fact present in the snapshot, and I fixed them by disabling hardware acceleration. I've done that now in the release version and so far, no crashes. But I've also lost 3D rendering and smooth scrolling in Google Maps.
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@crackedlcd said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
I think something is seriously broken
Nothing broken here. However, I see that the changes in the Chromium platform have created several new and unexpected collisions with user's setups, which could not be caught by testers and developers with different environments and different habits during testing.
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@ayespy said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
@crackedlcd said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
I think something is seriously broken
Nothing broken here. However, I see that the changes in the Chromium platform have created several new and unexpected collisions with user's setups, which could not be caught by testers and developers with different environments and different habits during testing.
I bet that would explain why 1.15 worked with hardware acceleration and 2.0 and above don't. I'm going to attempt to downgrade but I have a feeling I'll be starting over from scratch, as Vivaldi really does not like importing settings from newer versions to older versions.
I'm happy to share my setup/logs with whoever if it will help fix this annoying problem, I just need to be pointed in the right direction. The bug report form doesn't really give the opportunity to do much except describe in general a problem.
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@crackedlcd said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
I'm happy to share my setup/logs with whoever if it will help fix this annoying problem, I just need to be pointed in the right direction. The bug report form doesn't really give the opportunity to do much except describe in general a problem.
Well, you could attach them in a reply to the email that gives you the bug number - assuming you know which setup/log files to attach!?
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@tbgbe Setup is a very general term. It includes the kind of machine, video hardware, security software, any software added to the system to "enhance" the user experience, any and all flags set, extensions used, settings changed from default, etc.
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@tbgbe said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
@crackedlcd said in Browser error. Black screen with "dead bird" ?:
I'm happy to share my setup/logs with whoever if it will help fix this annoying problem, I just need to be pointed in the right direction. The bug report form doesn't really give the opportunity to do much except describe in general a problem.
Well, you could attach them in a reply to the email that gives you the bug number - assuming you know which setup/log files to attach!?
Yeah, that's the issue. I did it many times back when Opera was still its own thing, but since Vivaldi I haven't had to do it, so I forgot what all needs to be included and where the files are. D'oh!
One thing I can rule out is extensions. I've done it with and without, in new and old installs, and extensions do not affect any of the black bird/crashing behavior.
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Dead bird here today loading Twitter on 1st attempt ... (Windows 7, 32-bit)
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What are we supposed to do when we get a black screen?
I haven't seen the black screen in a good many months, but saw it today.
site: https://www.todaysparent.com/pregnancy/baby-names/how-to-name-your-baby-without-the-stress/
Extension of note: uBlock OriginAs soon as I visit the site, I now notice that the uBlock extension climbs in the number of items it blocks. Rapidly. After it block >1k items, the black screen appeared.
Nothing I'm going to do different, other than not go to that site again today. But wanted to pass it along as something to look for. Maybe open Dev Tools, network view, and see if there is a large influx of items?
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@gwen-dragon It's probable there is something wrong on that page, and while uBO is active I can confirm the crash of the tab.
There are too many videos on the same page, not counting the aggressive ads it tries to link in every article that appears while scrolling down and even up (yes! it reloads everything apparently, even those you already seen)
I checked with Vivaldi Task Manager and doing page up/down for a minute, the tab reached 1GB memory footprint. Trash site in my book. -
No problems here with nanoAdblocker. although he is a variant of uBO
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@gwen-dragon makes sense. In the meantime I've posted about this on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/9rnaq5/possible_memory_leak/ -
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