Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session



  • This has to be a bug. Using current version 1.15.1137.36. just updated to this version. I am now finding that when I close a saved session, the pinned tabs on the regularl, unsaved session, multiply. a couple more added of this tab, another added of another tab, 3 added of some other tab.
    Weird.

    I then have to unpin the newly added pinned tabs, so that I can delete them.



  • @astro46 If you think it's a bug, make a bugreport.



  • done. thanks for the link.

    I would have done this originally but don't see a link for bug reports on the forum home page.



  • I have gone back to using ver 1.14 until this problem is fixed.

    btw: is there no way to find my bug report to see what comments may have attached to it?


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    @astro46 said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    btw: is there no way to find my bug report to see what comments may have attached to it?

    Not at this time. Include your email so that if Vivaldi Team needs to they can contact you.

    BTW, what were your settings concerning pinned tabs?
    Settings>Tabs>Tab Features>tick "Don't Close Pinned Tabs".

    edit: I don't have this issue unless I clean my internet cache using a third party software.


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    @astro46 There is no public bug-tracking system, but you can ask a mod to update you on progress at any time, if you saved the bug number. Your bug number is VB-40016.

    At present, developers and testers cannot reproduce it on the latest 1.16 snapshot - possibly because none of us clear cache with a 3rd party application?

    Can you think of anything about your local setup or use of 3rd party software that might affect this?



  • @para-noid said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    btw: is there no way to find my bug report to see what comments may have attached to it?

    Not at this time. Include your email so that if Vivaldi Team needs to they can contact you.

    BTW, what were your settings concerning pinned tabs?
    Settings>Tabs>Tab Features>tick "Don't Close Pinned Tabs".

    edit: I don't have this issue unless I clean my internet cache using a third party software.

    "don't close pinned tabs" is , and, was, checked.

    I have reinstalled ver. 1.14.1077.60 . problem is gone. though now, I get error message when starting vivaldi about profile being from newer version, even though it uses the profile. Another vivaldi error?
    I did receive an email giving the bug report number, so the team seemingly has my email address.
    cleaning cache with 3rd party cleaner (ccleaner) wasn't an issue with 1.14.

    Seems clear that there is an issue with 1.15.



  • @ayespy said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 There is no public bug-tracking system, but you can ask a mod to update you on progress at any time, if you saved the bug number. Your bug number is VB-40016.

    At present, developers and testers cannot reproduce it on the latest 1.16 snapshot - possibly because none of us clear cache with a 3rd party application?

    Can you think of anything about your local setup or use of 3rd party software that might affect this?

    I haven't tried the 1.16 snapshot, so can't comment on its relevance. as i mentioned in previous comment, ccleaner cleaning cache wasn't an issue in 1.14. I don't see a setting for vivaldi to clear its own cache when closing.

    I can't think of anything about different software being used. again, now that I have gone back to 1.14, the problem is gone. except for the error message when starting about the profile being for a newer version, even though vivaldi seems to successfully use this profile.



  • I could try the 1.16 snapshot, to see if it fixes the problem with 1.15, but I am hesitant since I am already getting a profile error message from having used 1.15 and going back to 1.14. Will 1.16 make my profile more unusable if the multiple pinned tabs problem continues and I go back to 1.14?


  • - Ambassador -

    @astro46 Install it using the Advanced Installation option, and install it as a Standalone version, then its profile will be separate and stored in the installation folder (which does not need to be in Program Files).


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    @astro46 Unlikely. But one can always rename/back up a profile and then copy the necessary data files to an otherwise "incompatible" (older version) clean profile folder (bookmarks, passwords, favicons, history, sessions and tabs, etc.). This is only a pain if you use a ton of extensions, which I personally think is kind of a terrible idea to begin with.

    That said, I have updated stable, snapshot, and internal tester versions over and over and have never seen the problem you complain of. Neither has anyone else among the developers and internal testers. A problem that can't be reproduced also can't be fixed.

    Right now, absent better additional data, it would appear that something causing your problem is local to your system. If you refresh your profile, you may find that the problem goes away.

    And again, we see that the only other user reporting the problem is doing something to their Vivaldi datasets using 3rd party software. Are you?


  • - Ambassador -

    @ayespy FYI, I do not have the issue the OP is speaking about. In case you are referring to me.



  • @pesala said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 Install it using the Advanced Installation option, and install it as a Standalone version, then its profile will be separate and stored in the installation folder (which does not need to be in Program Files).

    thanks, I have been installing as standalone all along. this is the only way to tell vivaldi where I want the data files located.



  • @ayespy said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 Unlikely. But one can always rename/back up a profile and then copy the necessary data files to an otherwise "incompatible" (older version) clean profile folder (bookmarks, passwords, favicons, history, sessions and tabs, etc.). This is only a pain if you use a ton of extensions, which I personally think is kind of a terrible idea to begin with.

    That said, I have updated stable, snapshot, and internal tester versions over and over and have never seen the problem you complain of. Neither has anyone else among the developers and internal testers. A problem that can't be reproduced also can't be fixed.

    Right now, absent better additional data, it would appear that something causing your problem is local to your system. If you refresh your profile, you may find that the problem goes away.

    And again, we see that the only other user reporting the problem is doing something to their Vivaldi datasets using 3rd party software. Are you?

    I saved the necessary data (bookmarks, history, sessions, tabs, etc). Deleted the vivaldi folder on d: drive, installed ver 1.16 and restored the data. multiplying pinned tabs continue. presumably the problem isn't an extension, since I didn't re-install extensions in the new vivaldi install.

    I deleted the 1.16 vivaldi standalone installation folder and installed 1.14. restored the data. Am still getting error message about profile being from newer version

    I did accidentally discover something interesting. If I close the saved session from taskbar drop down box, the tabs don't multiply. If I close from the vivaldi top right corner X, tabs do multiply. Could this be why developers haven't replicated the problem?

    I hope a fix can be found for this problem. currently,I either I stick with 1.14 and deal with error message on every start, or install 1.15 and have to to remember that vivaldi sessions can only be closed in a certain way. Neither is attractive.


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    @astro46 I cannot understand how it is you are getting the "profile from a newer version" message. It sounds as though you restored something more than the critical data files. There must be something in there from settings, etc. as well. When you transplant data you have to absolutely ensure that you move over nothing but the actual bare bookmarks, login data, cookies, etc. files.



  • @ayespy said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 I cannot understand how it is you are getting the "profile from a newer version" message. It sounds as though you restored something more than the critical data files. There must be something in there from settings, etc. as well. When you transplant data you have to absolutely ensure that you move over nothing but the actual bare bookmarks, login data, cookies, etc. files.

    folders backed up and restored: vivaldi/user data/default/local app settings, vivaldi/user data/default/session storage, vivaldi/user data/default/sessions
    and, these files: vivaldi/user data/default/bookmarks, cookies, current session, history, login data, notes, preferences, web data.

    I pulled the choice of these folders and files from a list at vivaldi help site.
    are there some that I shouldn't be backing up/restoring?

    btw: about closing saved session from drop down box: I tried 1.16 again, and found (I don't remember it working like this before my previous post) that closing the saved session from drop down closes the saved session window and and already open window.


  • Moderator

    @astro46 You should not be restoring folders at all. Not any. Only individual files from the "Default" folder. No folders from within that, only about six or seven individual files.


  • Moderator

    @astro46 OK - I just got mine to do it. Also doing it in the snapshot version. Did I ask you to file a bug report?



  • @ayespy said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 OK - I just got mine to do it. Also doing it in the snapshot version. Did I ask you to file a bug report?

    luetage suggested in second post, above.. I did. Summary: Closing a saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session
    Key: VB-40016
    Project: Vivaldi Browser

    a previous post suggested that developers couldn't reproduce. perhaps that has to do with how they closed the window.



  • @ayespy said in Closing saved session multiplies pinned tabs in regular session:

    @astro46 You should not be restoring folders at all. Not any. Only individual files from the "Default" folder. No folders from within that, only about six or seven individual files.

    i took the list of items to save from this page: https://help.vivaldi.com/article/full-reset-of-vivaldi/
    mostly all files, but items "sessions", "sessions storage: " and "Local App Settings\mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli " only seem to be listed as folders. I don't see files with these names.

    I am not saving anything for extensions.

    perhaps folders/files are a bit different for stand-alone?


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