Passwords
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Can Vivaldi show me all the passwords that it has stored that I have created when visiting sites?
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chrome://settings/passwords
or
chrome://chrome/settings/passwords
//edit: second link only worked in some 2017 v-builds.
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When I click "Manage Passwords" on the popup that shows in the login form I get taken to vivaldi://settings/passwords but it's empty, even though I definitely have many passwords already saved and usable. So how do I delete the password I accidentally saved for one website that I didn't want to save anything for, in this situation?
(Both URLs above redirect to vivaldi:// versions, BTW, of which only the first one works.)
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@abm0 The second one worked in 2017 but now only the first is correct; the redirect to
vivaldi://
is a very old known issue probably kept for compatibility reason which will addressed (dunno when).
About password removal... on top right of such page there is a search box: enter the site name (you should get the site/username/password combo), press the 3-dot button and select remove. -
@hadden89 That might work if there was anything to search, but the page is empty, as if I had no saved passwords, even though I absolutely do. Same if I look for the passwords option in Settings: "No saved passwords found", which is ridiculous, I have quite a few saved passwords and they all work on their respective websites just fine.
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So does anyone know how I can get my passwords to show so I can delete just one of them? (Running Vivaldi 4.2.2406.54 on Xubuntu 18.04 if it matters.)
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@pesala See above discussion: there's nothing on that page for me, it looks like I have no saved passwords even though I do, I have tens of them that work fine on their respective websites.
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I have the same problem on Vivaldi 4.3.2439.44 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit)
Revision 6baf3843e8bd4863b130aa31a9a16030b4372afd OS Linux.Even logging this forum I used saved login and password but on vivaldi://settings/passwords - Saved Passwords there is only text "Saved passwords will appear here" and on Settings - Privacy - Passwords I can see "No saved passwords found"
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@andre_2000
Hi, you need a working keyring/wallet system on Linux to watch and edit passwords for browser, WiFi and so forth.
Some distributions/window manager ask you at first start to set it up but some does not.
KDE use Kwallet, Gnome use keyring to manage this, take a look what you need for your distribution.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in Passwords:
@andre_2000
Hi, you need a working keyring/wallet system on Linux to watch and edit passwords for browser, WiFi and so forth.Hi! I looked around for it and I do have gnome-keyring active, but I can't find information on how to edit any browser passwords. I installed something called Seahorse that's supposed to be a GUI for gnome-keyring, but it doesn't show any browser passwords anywhere, it has very little information overall. There's a "Passwords" section on its left toolbar, but the only child element is "Login" and that one contains only two things called "Chrome Safe Storage" and "Chrome Safe Storage Control", again with no sign on any of them that they contain any website passwords or any controls where I could delete individual passwords.
How is this so unusable on Linux while I can edit individual passwords just fine on Android and Windows right from Vivaldi's own Settings menu, I don't understand. How can Vivaldi have perfectly good access to add content to the keyring but then not have access to allow me to delete passwords without fiddling with 3rd-party interfaces?
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@abm0
Hi, Linux add a second security layer for Net/Web passwords, user login and keyring systems are separated. If you have the Windows login you can read all browser passwords but on Linux you cant.
I never use Gnome, for more than a few days, so I cant help much here.
It is possible to delete the keyrings or disable it but your loose all passwords.
If you use Vivaldi sync your passwords are saved there but I don´t know what happen if you disable keyring, delete your passwords and sync again without keyring.
Try to export your passwords to a .csv file in the Vivaldi security setting and look if the passwords are in clear text.
If yes you can import them later.GUI´s for keyring manage only the key system not the application passwords.
Disable keyring: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/tips-1.html#ID15
May a Gnome user can step by to help.
Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in Passwords:
@abm0
If you have the Windows login you can read all browser passwords but on Linux you cant.You definitely can - Firefox does this exactly as expected even on Linux, I can access/delete individual website passwords from the browser's own Settings menu just as I always could on every platform since forever. The simple truth is Vivaldi opted for a user-unfriendly solution for password storage on Linux.
So I will have to try the local export-import solution, since I don't want to activate any kind of sync or "cloud" functionality anywhere I can avoid it. Thanks again!
LE:
LOL, there's no way to export passwords as long as Vivaldi Settings thinks there are no saved passwords. There should be a 3-dots menu at the corner of the Saved Passwords section of the settings page but there isn't, since the section contains no passwords.LLE:
Actually it seems Chromium opted for this bad solution, and it affects all browsers built on Chromium, including Brave. In a way that's worse, because I'm less likely to get a fix by reporting it as a Vivaldi bug. -
OK, solved it. Found the answer somewhere in the StackExchange network by treating it as a Chromium problem, not just a Vivaldi problem: it seems something can get messed up about your default user profile "Person 1" even if you never set up sync or anything having to do with these "persons", maybe from some bad Chromium upgrade? So one solution is to just delete "Person 1" starting from that button next to the address bar > Manage People > click [Person 1] > Remove Person.
Of course now aaallll my Vivaldi settings and history and cookies and absolutely everything that was personalized is gone, but... saved passwords are fixed. Now all new passwords are not only showing up in chrome://settings/passwords, they're even showing up where they should be in the first place: the Settings window, Privacy section, where they're all listed up nicely if I press [Show Saved Passwords].
But in the meantime I've also removed the Login item from gnome-keyring via the Seahorse GUI and removed the system login prompt for my Xubuntu user as well, and I'm always starting Vivaldi with the "--password-store=basic" command-line option. So I can't be sure at this point if the solution was just to delete Person 1 or some of these or all of these combined.
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@abm0
Argh, broken profile, never thought about to test a new profile.
Anyway, nice it is working for you now!Cheers, mib
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But in the meantime I've also removed the Login item from gnome-keyring via the Seahorse GUI and removed the system login prompt for my Xubuntu user as well, and I'm always starting Vivaldi with the "--password-store=basic" command-line option. So I can't be sure at this point if the solution was just to delete Person 1 or some of these or all of these combined.
To update on that, I've experimented with starting Vivaldi without any special options and in that case Settings loses access to my passwords again. So it seems "--password-store=basic" is one of the essential ingredients in this solution (but when I tried just that, without deleting "Person 1", it didn't work, I still needed to wipe the profile first, or at least the passwords database, before it would work properly with a new unencrypted password database).
BTW, in order to secure a plaintext passwords database without using the keyring and without encrypting the whole home folder or disk, one solution I've seen here is to move the ~/.config/<browsername>/ subdirectory to a special encrypted directory and replace it with a symlink at the original location: https://pthree.org/2016/05/01/how-to-always-encrypt-chromium-saved-passwords-on-gnulinux-no-matter-what/
Will be trying this next, seeing as I've clarified plaintext storage is necessary to allow Settings to properly access the passwords. -
I have a similar problem on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
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I use keyrings (GNOME on Ubuntu, KWallet on Debian/Manjaro), no autologin, and all my passwords are shown.
And as i am a tester if Vivaldi in my Linux VMs, you can be sure that i would have encountered password storage issues. -
Maybe I imagined it then. Funny, I don't have the same issue in Firefox or Chrome.