Will we get (Modal) MDI Windows again?
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+1 I would like to see modal windows built in. The less reliance on plugins for more mainstream features the better.
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I think you misunderstood the term. A modal window is a completely different thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_window
But I think we are talking about MDI: multiple windows under a common menu bar. That's something I like to see again, too.
And lets expand this: A browser workspace with multiple sub-windows and maybe even tabs inside those sub-windows (that's something even Opera never had), which automatically get assigned to tab groups in the main "taskbar". Add a virtual desktop feature to this (switch between four different sets of tab/sub-window arrangements on the fly) and you have a very powerful setup. Managing hundreds of open tabs in a very intuitive way.
The point of Windows' MDI always was to not clutter your document windows with other applications, because Windows doesn't support virtual desktops. That's why MDI is needed.
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Never say never.
Win 10, aside the "square thing" (how I call the metro part of the OS) that I never touch, is a way better OS than win 7 / win8x.
Light, fast, has finally a decent command prompt, recognizable and with a standard copy and paste, more or less like any Linux terminal emulator, it has finally "the open prompt here [as administrator]" menu (like on KDE from 1999), and has finally the scroll wheel that scrolls the inactive windows, something I loved since the time of first ,Logitech wheeled mouse (worked on win 3.11 too) and that I miss since Logitech switched from the MouseWare to Setpoint drivers.
The start button is usable but not amazing, anyway classic shell works perfectly as always did in win 7 and 8
It's true that most of those little improvements can be implemented with some little utilities on win 7 too, but I can reply that Firefox can be transformed in a "Quasi Opera browser" with a bunch of extensions.
"Possible" and "ready to go" are two definitely different things, I believe the vivaldi users are well aware of this
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Win 10, aside the "square thing" (how I call the metro part of the OS) that I never touch, is a way better OS than win 7 / win8x.
Windows 10 is a remote controlled botnet, which will continuously download and executes code from its command and control servers in Redmond behind your back, without any option to opt out. I don't want to have something like that on my PCs.
So whatever it is now, it will not be the same thing two or three years ahead. You know the Windows 8 Preview had a start menu hidden by a registry setting? Maybe some nutcase has the idea to completely block desktop apps not installed from the store or whatever.
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JTSN is right. MDI is the right term for what I mean and what Opera up to 12.x had. I should have known better :oops:
I´m surprised that there´s so much response on this thread. I feared, by looking at all the browsers released in the last 10 years, that nobody cares about that feature. But there seem to be a small subset of browser Users who really appreciated the way Opera handled Windows / Tabs inside its own Browser Window.
And even if the Developers don´t pick this up, I´m very happy that Widget is working on an extension which could deliver what´s holding me at Opera at the moment
Thank you very much to everyone for your responses. And I will follow Vivaldi very closely in the next months
Edit: I´ve seen I can edit the title. There´s no strike through tag, so I left the Modal in and added the MDI to not confuse new readers of this topic (that I mixed up those terms)
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It is possible. I'm working on an extension providing this feature. Here's a very early preview of what I'm doing:
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vivaldi is supporting extensions now?
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It always did, unofficially. You must install it unpacked. It's hackish and some don't work correct or not at all.
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+1 for MDI
I was one of those who raised hell on MyOpera when they tried to remove the MDI buttons…
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+1
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Regarding the virtual desktop feature: This can be solved by opening multiple Vivaldi windows. These can kept on one OS desktop or spread over virtual desktops (of the host OS). Still I would like to see a good integration of multiple window support in Vivaldi and fast switching between them by keyboard (letting Alt+Tab cycling through everything is not sufficient).
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What widget is doing isn't really related to extension support though.. its a HTML/JS UI hack, what I'm worried about that his hack might not work once Vivaldi goes final, that being said though, he's doing some awesome work and I'm hoping Vivaldi is taking some pointers from him.
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Yeah, this is an old thread. But it's the only one which a title search for "MDI" returns.
I've used Opera for years, recently found out about V, and the promise of a return to what made Opera great in the past. Just installed it, hoping it would be true. But no MDI.
MDI is one of those things which I miss the most. +1 for MDI. Please?
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@Gwen-Dragon MDI doesn't seem that different than tiling, which V supports today.
That is, the engine apparently supports showing multiple web pages in arbitrarily defined areas, so it can at least do what Windows 1.0 did almost 30 years ago. Making those areas into movable windows which are allowed to overlap doesn't seem like an intractable problem.
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True MDI (Multiple Document Interface) is probably not available in any practical sense in HTML5/Node JS/React+Chromium engine/V8. However, something that looks and acts similarly is likely possible. What will determine how soon it comes to fruition, if ever, is whatever it takes to provide a majority - or a healthy percentage - of users the options they need to see. Movable/resizable elements within a parent window are already a target feature when it comes to tab tiling for instance, but even that is not easy. At least one user asked about cascading tabs. So we will see. MDI in and for itself, as a goal, does not seem to be on the table at this point.
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@mikes said in Will we get (Modal) MDI Windows again?:
(...) the engine apparently supports showing multiple web pages in arbitrarily defined areas, so it can at least do what Windows 1.0 did almost 30 years ago
So, you're basically saying that there is nothing special about light bulbs since people were able to light up their houses with candles thousands of years ago? That is an interesting point of view...