NO recovery for lost sessions with tabs
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@paul1149 Just save your session, often, no need of external tools & extensions apart a bit of manual session save at least daily before shutting down the PC.
The lesson of unexpected tab loss bug should teach everyone to do so. The bug is now fixed in the current 2.9 snapshot - touching wood - and will be back ported to an update of 2.8 stable, still there is always a chance of the need of a backed up session restore.
and BTW:the Stable channel should be more immune to bugs of this level.
everybody thinks it should be the case, of course, but when the stable release is exactly the last Snapshot release candidate, just reversioned and icon color changed, without giving it any time for further test and improvements, because it has to be rushed out the door, the same bugs afflicting the Snapshot will be found in the "stable" release, with the results we all know, and increased backlog of bugreports.
I am not a fan of this "Chromium security patches first, Vivaldi useability and bug fixes later" cycle. I am pratically forced to stay on the Snapshot branch, at least I get all the fixes immediately
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the Stable channel should be more immune to bugs of this level.
everybody thinks it should be the case, of course, but when the stable release is exactly the last Snapshot release candidate, just reversioned and icon color changed, without giving it any time for further test and improvements, because it has to be rushed out the door, the same bugs afflicting the Snapshot will be found in the "stable" release, with the results we all know, and increased backlog of bugreports.
I am not a fan of this "Chromium security patches first, Vivaldi useability and bug fixes later" cycle. I am pratically forced to stay on the Snapshot branch, at least I get all the fixes immediatelyYup, that's exactly why I exclusively use Snapshots as well. (That and, I'm a tinkerer type who's always eager to try out the latest new toys
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@burnout426 Maybe Opera has the same problem, but it doesn't really matter, imho, as we chose Vivaldi because we think it is / should be a better tool. And if an extension (like Session Buddy) can ensure tabs and sessions are never lost then I see no reason why Vivaldi itself shouldn't. Thanks for the feedback.
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@Pesala Hopefully. Thanks.
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@iAN-CooG If they can be saved and thus made safe manually, then the same could be done automatically, imho. That's one of the beauties of and reasons we have computers. You want your computer to do backups, antivirus checks, whatnot automatically. No need for users to think about it and waste their time. If it's not automated, it's gonna bite you sooner or later. Just my 2 cents. Kind regards.
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@martinko The fact that this time the bug was indeed in the automatic backup/restore procedure of the session.
Programs always contain bugs, and like this time, even in the least expected place. -
You may consider to check this:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/40746/v-back-up-and-promotion/
And participate if you have some ideas.
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@luetage said in NO recovery for lost sessions with tabs:
@violin1 Happens from time to time. Especially if you have a large number of tabs open you depend on, you should save your open tabs as session regularly.
Never needed any of that with FireFox with mozilla's own Session Manager plugin. Even if the HDD space ran out for some reason, there was always the previously saved session - it wasn't overwritten before the new one was succesfully returned. Since obviously both FireFox and Vivaldi save the session periodically, as both have been able to return previous tabs even after sudden crash - but I just lost my session, because something that wasn't application I had launched was consuming quite fast (1-2 minutes a gigabyte). I ran out and neither FireFox (which doesn't support Legacy plugins and Session Saver hasn't been ported to it, so it's just it's built-in last-session restore) nor Vivaldi could anymore write the session into disk. However Firefox did return all except one tab, because it had kept the previously saved session as the latest writes failed. Apparently Vivaldi did something else and would only had had a session to restore if it had been succesfully written to disk.
This is not just a feature of being able to close browser without losing tabs, but also an important safety feature for crashes, memory running out and vivaldi getting killed by kernel, or my very special case; but people running out of disk space accidentally is not rare, if not most common they still are a considerable amount of users. Anyone who thinks it's possible that he could accidentally fill the HD before realizing, and if they were Vivaldi users and it or the OS crashed, they would except to get at least fairly recent session back. I'm talking of power users of course, which are your core market group.
This is an issue waiting for fixing - because this is a defect for a power user - and I don't know how you didn't think of the case where the session backup save fails, and that the only reasonable choice is to keep the last succcesfully saved session instead - and keep trying to save again, until hopefully writdng succeeds again.
If you're at Vivaldi are anything like I have understood, you would certainly realize that this is a fundamental requirement for browser power user
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