[Feature Request] Best of the best: Opera Presto Features
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6. Presto caching mechanism. That shit was and is amazing, Still BEST caching mechanism ever, not a single modern browser tops the way old Opera works with cache
I get a kick out of how someone put it –- The Caching of the Gods :lol:
Nevertheless, hopefully that Caching of the Gods is one and the same as what I am hoping they bring back. Let me see if I can describe it. Let me preface this by saying that I have Dial Up Internet. NOW … what I loved about original / Presto Opera is that even with the slowness of Dial Up, it was still possible to at least rather soonish be able to see SOME of the content of pages start to display. Little by little, more and more of the page was forming. But, bottom line, there was at least a somewhat quick semblance of evidence that YES ... I do have connection to the website. It IS progressing with loading of the page.
This in contrast to NEW Opera, Chrome, Firefox and ALL other Browsers out there whereby with my Dial Up, upon clicking to bring up a website, I see nothing but WHITE for eternities until presumably around 80% to 90% of the data to display the page has been downloaded. THEN and only then will I see any actual content of the page.
So yeah, if the famous Caching of the Gods will fix that, then by all means, I too want the Caching of the Gods to be brought back. :woohoo:
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Pretty much we just need presto to be upgraded to modern standards
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Pretty much we just need presto to be upgraded to modern standards
Impractical in just too, too many ways. To begin with, Presto is the property of Opera ASA and Vivaldi is not allowed to use it. Further, to build a similar engine would take forever. And on top of this, if such an effort were successful, it would be unsupported by the web at large, suffer from the same incompatibility problems Presto did, and in the end be locked into adoption by only a very tiny community. Finally, the amount of effort that would go into continually revising and patching the engine to keep up with a web which was trying continually to evolve AWAY from it by following only the engines of the Big Three, would consume the manpower of a small village.
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Pretty much we just need presto to be upgraded to modern standards
Impractical in just too, too many ways. To begin with, Presto is the property of Opera ASA and Vivaldi is not allowed to use it. Further, to build a similar engine would take forever. And on top of this, if such an effort were successful, it would be unsupported by the web at large, suffer from the same incompatibility problems Presto did, and in the end be locked into adoption by only a very tiny community. Finally, the amount of effort that would go into continually revising and patching the engine to keep up with a web which was trying continually to evolve AWAY from it by following only the engines of the Big Three, would consume the manpower of a small village.
I think he was speaking figuratively, not literally.
We want a modern equivalent of Presto (not actually Presto itself updated).
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I could browse a whole page inside the side panel of the older opera. could have a look at the scoreboard and refresh it while browsing other pages in the main window. I miss those good old days
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- 6. Presto caching mechanism. That shit was and is amazing, Still BEST caching mechanism ever, not a single modern browser tops the way old Opera works with cache
While I agree with the need of bringing back all the Presto features mentioned in this post, this particular one almost brings tears to my eyes. The browsing experience in Presto-era Opera, even without taking into account the advanced features, was (and still is) in another league, and that was greatly thanks to the caching-from-the gods it delivered. If Vivaldi can bring this back, it will become instantly better than all browsers currently in the market (not a tall order, since browser design has somehow kept to a staggering mediocrity despite competition, but still…).
I agree! Go for it!
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I still use Opera 12.17 as my default browser. I didn't care much for Opera 25+ series. That browser is watered down version of what Opera 12.17 could do. The features I would like to see in Vivaldi are
1. Content Blocking - Opera allows users to right click on the webpage and block out any ad - This is a must have feature in any good browser!
2. IRC agent - This was the primary reason for downloading Opera to begin with.
3. Clean History on Exit - Wonder why this feature is neglected in newer versions.
4. Privacy - This is open ended topic
5. Supports extensions such as Ghostery - Another must have feature for any good browser.Opera 12.17 also has a few shortcomings. HTML 5 videos don't work in Opera, and hence using Vivaldi now.
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I would like to see the old address bar, this omni shit address bar is really annoying, there is no option to disable inline autocomplete, and I really want the dropdown button to open typed urls again.
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@RRR13:
@jon:
Give us some time. I can tell you that what we have now is a lot better than Opera 1.0 beta 1.
Opera 1?! Oh, come on, Jon! Use some contemporary references! :))
For example, you can say Vivaldi has more useful features than Opera 99 or whichever is the latest version, which is obviously true, given that Vivaldi has tab stacking.Opera 5 released in 2000 was already quite advanced and way ahead of the competition with its MDI support/tabbed browsing. Actually this was the time were I started using it almost exclusively. First the adware version, later I paid for it. Being standard-compliant and not very error-tolerant made it a great web development tool. Stuff that worked fine in Opera most likely worked everywhere else.
Also I didn't use all the features right from the start, but I grew into them. Like the mail client, which I ignored the first few years until I needed a hassle-free cross-platform MUA solution, started using the RSS reader, occasional use of the IRC client, making a BitTorrent download here and there and so on. All these protocol options were not the very best in their respective domains, but having Opera Portable on the USB drive integrated into a swiss army knife made a great Internet toolbox on the go. Good-enough Telnet/SSH support and some VPN functions would have made Opera 12 perfect.
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- Themes
Just to assure: I guess, you didn't mean just some background images only, right? :whistle:
someone
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I still use O12.17 as my primary browser. I agree to most of the OPs listed features, so I would welcome at least some of these features into vivaldi.
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OH YEAH!
And Ctrl+enter command to fill username and password boxes. That was KILLER!
this. i want this so much
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I also want Ctrl + Enter back for paswords
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Hi,
first of all let me say this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvsiGFHy2k (no I'm not him
)I'm new to the community but I tested Vivaldi and I'm a long time Opera user.
I actually switched to the new "Opera" and it's horrific.
Instead of adding features they are even removing them, I think we are at version 30 and it's still not getting better.From "our Opera" I would like to see "WAND" with all of it's functions(I miss that little Key Button) and maybe improve it.
I would also like to see the BT client. Don't get me wrong, I was and am using µTorrent but sometimes you just need a little quick download and the BT client was perfect for that.I will merge over to Vivaldi as it hits final(already testing to much).
Did I overlook this or is there no way to import the SpeedDial from Opera?
I use the SpeedDial a lot and its big, it would be a lot of work to do it manually…I didn't look at the Mail client, is it like the one in "our Opera" or is it like Thunderbird?
I was using the Netscape Communicator and then switched to Thunderbird and Opera but Mozilla gave up Thunderbird so I'm seeking for a client with the same look and feel, I didn't like the Opera Mail client.Just one more thing I would like to ask for, please oh please don't implement stuff like Cortana, Google Now or what ever they are called. If I wanted to talk to my browser I would use dragon naturally speaking...
Thanks
LordRayden
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Sorry, bur I got to do this.
For the Troll Click :cheer: :lol: :silly: :woohoo: :evil: -
Hi,
first of all let me say this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvsiGFHy2k (no I'm not him )I'm new to the community but I tested Vivaldi and I'm a long time Opera user.
I actually switched to the new "Opera" and it's horrific.
Instead of adding features they are even removing them, I think we are at version 30 and it's still not getting better.From "our Opera" I would like to see "WAND" with all of it's functions(I miss that little Key Button) and maybe improve it.
I would also like to see the BT client. Don't get me wrong, I was and am using µTorrent but sometimes you just need a little quick download and the BT client was perfect for that.I will merge over to Vivaldi as it hits final(already testing to much).
Did I overlook this or is there no way to import the SpeedDial from Opera?
I use the SpeedDial a lot and its big, it would be a lot of work to do it manually…I didn't look at the Mail client, is it like the one in "our Opera" or is it like Thunderbird?
I was using the Netscape Communicator and then switched to Thunderbird and Opera but Mozilla gave up Thunderbird so I'm seeking for a client with the same look and feel, I didn't like the Opera Mail client.Just one more thing I would like to ask for, please oh please don't implement stuff like Cortana, Google Now or what ever they are called. If I wanted to talk to my browser I would use dragon naturally speaking...
Thanks
LordRayden
You're not the first to ask for a "wand" (including ctrl+enter) type of function. Devs have not commented on if or when they might try to bring this.
There's been no indication they might integrate bittorrent.
Unfortunately, I've not seen a way to import speed dial. Since you can elect ANY bookmark folder to be speed dial in Vivaldi, and can have hierarchical folders in it as well, this is rather a different product from the old speed dial.
As to mail, the mail client is not included yet. I did get a brief preview of it some versions ago, and while it is at what I would characterize as a fairly advanced stage of development by now, it is not released. All Vivaldi has at the moment is the Vivaldi.net webmail page. From what I did see, though, I see roughly zero similarity between what will be M3, and any Moz-based email client.
There's no sign at this stage that Vivaldi is interested in Cortana-like functions.
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Hi,
Ayespy, thank for the quick response.
One question that I forgot.
Do you know how Vivaldi Identifies it self on websites?
The "new Opera" Identifies itself as Chrome so you get offered Chrome extension, or Java for Chrome or Flash for Chrome…Thanks
LordRayden
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Hi,
Ayespy, thank for the quick response.
One question that I forgot.
Do you know how Vivaldi Identifies it self on websites?
The "new Opera" Identifies itself as Chrome so you get offered Chrome extension, or Java for Chrome or Flash for Chrome…Thanks
LordRayden
If you check your "Help/about" screen, you will see that the user agent is: **Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/41.0.2272.105 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.0.201.2
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This means that sites recognize it as both Moz and Chrome. Chrome extensions are installable, BUT they are not fully supported yet, so they will not display UI features such as buttons, etc. -
I agree with previous commenters on this thread about the caching of Opera Presto. I also really really want the ability to save and load sessions again, which once it appeared in Opera became an instant hit with me. I also would like "block content" brought back, please.
And support for Adblock Plus
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I also just found that whatever my default search engine is, the search on right click menu seems to be stuck on Google. Please make that the currently selected search engine, please.
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It's pretty much crucial for me. Custom buttons in Opera 12.17 are a very efficient use of screen real-estate. Each button can do two commands too: one with short press and another with long press.
Couldn't agree more. Custom Buttons and Saved Sessions are must have features, gold standard of Opera 12! I still use "Remind password", "Delete Cache", "Select & Save Session" custom buttons in Opera 12 and more. For a user Custom Buttons are somewhat similar to browser extensions, also usually represented by a toolbar button, but extensions have reacher functionality that can be exposed via Button Context Menu.
