[Feature Request] Best of the best: Opera Presto Features
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- 6. Presto caching mechanism. That shit was and is amazing, Still BEST caching mechanism ever, not a single modern browser tops the way old Opera works with cache
While I agree with the need of bringing back all the Presto features mentioned in this post, this particular one almost brings tears to my eyes. The browsing experience in Presto-era Opera, even without taking into account the advanced features, was (and still is) in another league, and that was greatly thanks to the caching-from-the gods it delivered. If Vivaldi can bring this back, it will become instantly better than all browsers currently in the market (not a tall order, since browser design has somehow kept to a staggering mediocrity despite competition, but still…).
It is safe to assume we won't see anything like that in Vivaldi. Or won't see it for a QUITE while. Opera's caching mechanism was a thing of years.
As much as I'd love it, with my current state of decent interwebs I can sacrifice this one
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I know it and he does not understand.
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I've spent years to uncover most of the features that Opera 12 (and earlier) provided. Even the process of finding all this technical stuff was cool. I was making the browser fit my daily Internet routine as much as it was possible…and it was (and still is) great fun. I've always found ways to improve the experience. For example: I've found a skin which let me put 25 speed dials while they were still readable (after some tweaking), I've set mouse action RMB+mouse down to pin/unpin tab, left -> down to dissolve tab group, right -> up to close tab group, ALT+Q to close all tabs, etc. These are nuances, but they made Opera so special to me and I guess to everyone else that uses it even today. Yes, I'm a geek and I like it complicated
I hope that Vivaldi will also be such a detailed masterpiece.
I wonder what's the purpose of those essays written by Pavil82. He invest so much time and effort to prove that we here and Vivaldi team are some kind of techno-neo-heretics?
F@$#! Why don't we all drink the same alcohol, drive the same cars, wear the same clothes?
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@jon:
We are not aiming to do Opera.
excellent idea
@jon:
We are aiming to do more.
great!
@jon:
Opera was always about innovation and we aim to innovate
What about:
- at first run right after the installation, asking a new user to enter his identities and password of the social networks he uses (FB, digg, twitter, …) and automatically save the user profile it in the cloud? Sounds similar to password manager, but isn't really.
- what about a "social notification panel" that showed the new posts in the socials, in kinda of an RSS stream?
- what about eliminating the folder structure of the bookmarks and giving the user the opportunity to save them with TAGs only in a single repository that had nothing else, but a search field, as interface, to the user?
newscpq
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From Opera Presto I would like to see in Vivaldi
1. "Open new tab next to active" feature.
2. View pages while they are loading, not only when loading complete.
3. Something like "International Fonts" button in Presto's settings to select preferred font for several language (and changes will include fonts on Vivaldi's Interface).
4. Exit confirmation.
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I think you want to be using Flock or one of those other "social" browsers for whom the internet is nothing but one huge narcissism and chat fest.
And if you think anyone can accurately remember "tags" for 1000 bookmarks so as to quickly search a database, you're nutz. The reason for bookmark folder trees is because we remember how the idea was classified - not what its search term would be. I know that the Secretary of State for every state in the union is going to be in its appropriate state folder, under "States." Hence, I find it in a flash.
And the reason for a bookmarks toolbar is so that we can jump in an instant (single click, no searching) to one of the 30 or fewer sites that we use multiple times every single day. No database solution could possibly replace that level of convenience.
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- what about a "social notification panel" that showed the new posts in the socials, in kinda of an RSS stream?
We are litterally buried of social networking notifications, there isn't really any needs to have another one.
If you really can't stand w/o this you will be able to install an extension for this purpose
- what about eliminating the folder structure of the bookmarks and giving the user the opportunity to save them with TAGs only in a single repository that had nothing else, but a search field, as interface, to the user?
I consider this pure madness.
And I'm not alone.
www.osnews.com/story/26220/What_s_with_this_anti-directory_structure_movement_
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newscpq wrote:
- what about eliminating the folder structure of the bookmarks and giving the user the opportunity to save them with TAGs only in a single repository that had nothing else, but a search field, as interface, to the user?
If I could only choose one feature to rescue from what is undoubtedly "Ye Olde Days of Interwebs", the Bookmarks folder structure is it. Right now in Chrome I've got a bookmarks bar crammed full of folders, many of which contain folders, full of bookmarks. Useful stuff for work, for the kids, etc etc.
If I want to open 2 or 3 of these items in subfolders, I have to click the folder, hover the subfolder (repeat as necessary), click the link. Want to open another one in the same area? Tough, the folders are all closed again.
When the "newer improveder" Opera appeared, I was all "yay, it'll be like Chrome but better". But it wasn't; it was "It's like Chrome". Speed dials are OK, but if you've got over 1000 bookmarks already nicely structured why should you be forced to chuck that all away just because it's not trendy and cool to keep links and organise stuff?
"But you could use Internet Explorer if you want to do that", I hear you say. And then I laugh, and fire up Opera 12.17 once more.
TL,DR; The bookmarks folder structure and sidebar is good. Please keep it.
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I also want Presto like page Source viewer, with ability to edit source, apply and view changes instantly.
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New to Vivaldi, so I might not yet have discovered all it so far has to offer, but as a long time user of Opera (double figure years, and it is still my default browser on Win 7, 8.1, and Linux) the future is looking bright again.
The feature requests posted so far seem to show just how valued Opera really was/is.
The mail system is essential for me, I haven't found anything remotely close to Opera mail.
One other feature that I use many times a day is >Tools > Delete private data. It would be great if that could be included with the same range of options that Opera 12.17 has now. I think it is a major benefit in reducing tracking/profiling if cache, cookies etc can be cleared quickly and frequently. -
It's not crucial, but would be nice to implement custom buttons where you could write a macro or some instruction and assign this to the button. It would be nice to choose how this button would look like (eg. custom icon) and also give it a keyboard shortcut. Of course user should be able to put this button wherever he chooses. Custom buttons were already in old Opera, but this would be like buttons+
Example macro assigned to the button could do the following:
Open preselected website in MDI mode, where it would take half horizontal space and other half would take mail window to preselected contact. This would allow to easy copy/paste text from website to the email.
You can of course do it step by step manually, but this way it would require just to click the button. You could have dozens of these buttons with different websites and different contacts and all just a click a way. -
It's not crucial, but would be nice to implement custom buttons where you could write a macro or some instruction and assign this to the button. It would be nice to choose how this button would look like (eg. custom icon) and also give it a keyboard shortcut.
It's pretty much crucial for me. I could just about manage without it if I had fully customisable keyboard shortcuts and mouse gestures to perform the same tasks. Custom buttons in Opera 12.17 are a very efficient use of screen real-estate. Each button can do two commands too: one with short press and another with long press.
Mouse Over the Toolbar to see the full set.
I use it as a quick launch toolbar for my most used Windows applications, as well as to access Opera settings through opera:config and preferences.
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OH YEAH!
And Ctrl+enter command to fill username and password boxes. That was KILLER!
This. I've been asking for this for a while now. I hate how the chromium family just autopopulates the login fields. I want all that stuff to remain hidden until I hit Ctrl+Enter.
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@RRR13:
That might just be the most hideously looking Opera I have ever seen in my life. :lol: .
I must agree. Looks like IE6 after it grabbed a ton of crapware. (read the second time you launch it :lol: )
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There's one mouse gesture they should have by default in their web browser like Google Chrome has! And that is the one where you push your scroll-wheel to the left to go back and to the right to go forward! I really miss this feature from Google Chrome and I really want your team to implement this feature, in this great web browser!
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Like to see Opera Dragonfly in Vivaldi. The Chrome dev tool is too bad for me.
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I use two monitors, so I need tabs on the bottom and developer tools open in a separate windows.
Very simple features, always present in Opera, yet they do not implement it in Chropera. Why I don't know.
Opera now is a Chrome with some additional features, but not an Opera any more. Why faithful users are blatantly ignored I don't know. Why is it so hard to put a small icon for closed tabs onto the tool bar?
Opera introduced MDI many years ago - and remains the only browser that has a real MDI interface. But new Opera? Behaves as annoyingly as Firefox, Chrome.
I stuck to Opera 12.x as long as possible, until it became unbearable (mostly through Googles mobbing).
Today I read an article in C'T that Jon von Tetzchner is back with a browser for the users - and he did not let me down as Opera did.
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Okay, I've got one … a feature that to the best of my knowledge, only original Opera / Opera Presto had it and NO ONE else has ever had it.
The famous Extended Progress Bar that one could have down at the bottom of the page. I have Dial Up Internet and that Extended Progress Bar was always VERY helpful … positively awesome ... a lifesaver! YES!
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I would like to see:
Opera 12.17 tab handling
Fast History Navigation
Ctrl+enter to enter passwords
Double click on text and open context menu
Context menus like 12.17
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Next to the many points mentioned, there are some more things I'd love to see the following:
- Proper text selection (not all objects on a page, but just text)
- Smooth scrolling the way O12 did it.
- "Future navigation": ie as opposed to history navigation: recognise pagination and allow with rocker gestures to move to the next page without actually having to click on the pager.
- Details of images from context menu
- A search sidebar. It wasn't in opera, but I think it could be great: recognise a search queries one of your default search engines, and allow for quick toggling between the other favorite search engines with the same query (so no need to type again).
- On privacy: reduce possibility of fingerprinting of the browser
Dragonfly was indeed great, although in the past year chrome's inspector has gained lots of features that dragonfly does not have anymore. It is
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I have started using Opera since version 3.
I am still using v12, although i tried to "migrate" to Firefox : needs a lot of addons and it is not better.
Problematic pages still exist, anyway.
Having discovered Vivaldi, the very first thing I expect is to recover all the nice features that Opera 12 had (and still has)..
It will be difficult for me to follow any trolled thread.
Waiting…