Snapshot 1.5.609.8 - Chromium update, bug fixes and Web Panel improvement
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I'm waiting for ''right click > search withβ¦'' feature. Do you think?
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Down vote doesn't do anything, other than hiding the cowards. Being working with Opera for last 7 hours. Long touch gives two handles, which can be pulled to highlight a sentence or part of it. Search, copy, search with etc pop up window immediately appear. Zooming, pinching works. Tab stacking was suddenly not needed for work. Going up and down on the drop down window showed the thumbnails, which was a nice surprise. In an hour or two, I'll study the Opera help page and the settings. The work output today was much better with remarkably less wrist pain, actually no wrist pain.
There is something attractive about Vivaldi, so it'd be nice, if the touch screen actions come to it. Regarding colours, it would be nice to have vibrant colours, rather than the dull ones right now. Looking at the Opera team, I see some guys had not come to Vivaldi, and that maybe one of the coding problems with Vivaldi. It looks like most of the Opera coding is done by people from a certain country, and none are here at Vivaldi.
Edit: Few minutes ago, the Opera logo became red and there was info about an update to 40.0.2308.54. Even, though I don't like automatic updates, I was impressed. A few minutes later, another came, 40.0.2308.62
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Search results in "history" page are cleared away after switching to another tab, it's very annoying.
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Thank you for being so polite! I'm not trying to dissuade discussion, only to encourage it. I could be wrong just throwing out the info for thought.
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Addendum:
After reading more comments below, the program I watched was long and he covered a LOT, a person has to think where hes is coming from also. He was from the old days where you didn't have millions of lines of crappy code and only had 68K of memory then. He just said programs would be more un-crashable and hackable if it was more like then. Just because we have the machines that can handle that garbage we need to get back more to our roots.
As to your point he also said that developers need to LISTEN to their customers.All this is partially my interpretation and bias, as all thoughts are.
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Then your choice must be the Dillo browser. No UI mumbo-jumbo, no memory consumption, lightning fast, great in every respect β¦ just a little unusable! Don't you care about the decoration of your house, only for the plumbing and the electrical installations? Do you want your car to look like a FIAT Multipla (regardless of its driving quality)? If you have a product don't you want to 'sell' it in the best possible wrap? Why Vivaldi team has put so many efforts into the customization of the browser (skins, mouse gestures, panels etc.)?
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Nobody here cares what browser you use and why, and why you decided to stop using Vivaldi, as well as anyone cares to read increasingly negative posts, and the same and that's touch screen. Yes, Vivaldi has a lot of shortcomings, but finally understand that this is only the beginning, for all need some time, some things can not do a minute to minute. And with that you'd be here always comment and criticism will not solve anything. So please do Use the Opera, and come back here, then if they are your most desired features, and do not do spam here. Thanks!
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This is not an answer to be proud of! If I could ask the developers I bet they would answer: "Yes everybody come aboard, inform us of our shortcomings and we'll try to correct them - don't hold back even your 'silliest' thoughts, we'll keep an eye to all suggestions"! This is not the place to display self-admiration and narcissism or to 'attack' different opinions!
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You know, I'm tired still read those same negative posts. Since I noticed posts by chdsl and still just critical. A more users answered him and he's still the same and still only criticism. So I do not respond this way specifically on this single view, but overall its still recurring critical views in the same things.
Yes, it must also accept criticism, I 'm taking it. But if he is missing something, let it submit a developer on the page Report a Bug, and waiting for it when the desired function arrives.
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Case closed!
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I'm pleased you've found a browser that suits you. You should use it.
No, of course many developers never left Opera. Only about half of the development staff was fired or left voluntarily with the change from Presto to WebKit. And only a minority of those ever found their way to Vivaldi, while about half of Vivaldi's initial development staff (at least) never worked for Opera. They came from Iceland, Japan, Norway, Poland, Germany, etc. Current recruitment efforts are likely to draw from more countries still. Jon was never shy about having an international team. There are in fact formal physical offices in the US, Iceland and Norway ATM. It seems to me at least one developer at Vivaldi and perhaps two internal testers are from Wroclaw or elsewhere in Poland. The reason most Opera desktop developer seem to be from there at the moment is that the Oslo office (the founding office) closed down its desktop development team and all desktop development operations were moved to Poland. (This triggered a bit more migration to Vivaldi.) You ought to drop by and see them sometime.
I see you're on Opera's freshly-released Stable branch, which is ATM 21 numeric (3rd decimal) sub-versions of Chromium (.101 versus .122) behind Vivaldi Stable, which had a minor update today to backport some of the fixes from the internal developer version.
All that said, the purpose of this blog is not to flog other browsers (not that there's any need - Vivaldi keeps up with what other browsers are up to), but rather to discuss bugs, regressions and "does or doesn't work for me" feedback on this snapshot of Vivaldi, so that the developers can progress toward the next stable version. Desired features, known fixes and workarounds, how-to's, complaints, news of the world and of other browsers, all are topics for the Forums, where developers and testers also read, though they comment there less.
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I didn't say that you took it to the extreme. I realize you are a very sarcastic person now I'll catch it.
The trouble of all that it pivots on "personal, taste and views" all different. As so many people have their personal preferences to hit a MEDIAN or mean CAN'T please everyone and some NEVER!
If one wants a browser just for them and/or their needs hire a really good team and make it for themselvesβ¦.not many will do that.
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I just updated to Opera Final 40, only to be confronted by half a dozen speed dials that were not there before. This is like spam to my way of thinking. I expect a few recommended bookmarks from sponsors when I install a free browser for the first time, but it's a bit irritating to have more "suggestions" added later that I only have to hide or remove.
As for visual appearance, all I see in Opera's speed dial is text labels on coloured rectangles. It's better than Vivaldi's thumbnails, but not what I would choose. In due course Vivaldi will get more customisation of the Speed Dial, but it's not a top priority IMO.
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Confirmed. File a bug report.
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It's already there, but presumably you mean search with your choice of search engines? Currently, it always uses the current default.
A workaround is to copy the selected text, and then search in the URL field with a keyword for your search engine, e.g. "w Vivaldi" to search Wikipedia.
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Is the download broken? Does not work for me on auto-update and normal downloading the file. I'm using the 1.5.604.4 (Entwickler-Build) (64-Bit) on win7.
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Don't read! Buy a newspaper!
People like you, CheVe11e_191, usually destroy something with your fanboi feelings. For the devs, its better to see, what we see, than what you see, for you don't see anything with your blindness! I only write to the devs, not to you, so go read a book. Btw, Opera thanks Ruari in their thanks page for creating Opera. -
As it's still the Chromium's history page, it may just be a Chromium thing. I bet it won't be like that once it's Vivaldi's history page.
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Ayespy, I have 13 browsers in Windows, and none of them are exactly installed, the way you have in your machine, except the Edge browser. In Linux, all browsers are self contained, and none would be automatically upgraded. For example, Vivaldi 1.4 is just 70.1MB, while the standard install is about 175MB. I have PepperFlash inside it, and no symlinks, and some files for it to work in a KDE environment.
Now, why I wrote about Opera? After reading a comment, I decided to test it fully in Windows, without using any other browser in that time. The interesting fact is that I don't carry the baggage of once-used-browser-had-abandoned-me, which troubles most of the old users of Opera, who had moved to Vivaldi. Mind you, those old users won't help Vivaldi with their blindness. It maybe much better for the devs to listen to "complains" that I place here, than listen to the oh-how-I-love-it praise.
Btw, I have the Opera Developer edition installed too in Windows, for I like to see how it works in unstable state.
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Hm. You got me there. I only have 12 browsers on Windows. I hold that Vivaldi users are capable of evaluating software for themselves in keeping with their own likes, needs and best interests, in spite of the fact they may also have had good or bad experiences with other software. I decline to embrace the idea that someone who does not develop browsers possess greater wisdom concerning that field of endeavor than those actually involved in that field. Still, Vivaldi solicits feedback (positive and negative) and makes use of it. They are in the enviable position of receiving this feedback directly from tens of thousands of sources (all proficiency levels from people who can scarcely find the power button to sophisticated software developers) and being able to evaluate it from the perspective of their experience and competence in the field. Further, they participate in conferences and expos with browser makers and developers.
A single user knows their OWN experience better than anyone. They may even have strong feelings and convictions concerning their own perspective.
A manufacturer must be guided by the larger picture (the experiences of everyone), by expertise, and by knowledge of their own economics and resources. I'm not sure there is even ONE Vivaldi developer or tester who does not also have Opera installed, and who does not follow its development, discussing relevant changes and advances from time to time, with other developers and testers. They also track Firefox, Edge, Chrome, Otter, SeaMonkey and several others. They test whether their concepts work cross-browser. They have tested and evaluated Qupzilla, Sleipnir, SlimJet, Comodo, Iron, Brave, Yandex, Safari, Pale Moon, Maxthon, etc., etc.
They're not operating in a vacuum.
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Peaceβ¦. I have been reading how much security Crome is putting in it's engine including different signs in future on address bar that will tell that it doesn't have security but should. No wonder it changes Viv troubles all the time but seems necessary.