Can I disable shuffling tabs in groups every time I add/remove a tab from group

  • It's annoying.
    I was liking the idea of switching to Vivaldi from Firefox ever since they started to medling with features I used or properties I liked.

    ===This is beginning of my private rant, you can skip this paragraph if you like to===
    They changed the overall theme to Chrome-like with Australis - ok, I can get it back. They got rid of grouping tabs - sure, there is a addon for that. Adding chrome-like(again) multiple-process approach - well, I don't like it, but now there is no other option, every big browser uses it. Now, they're killing XUL addons, which means that tab groups plugin will stop work.
    ===End of rant, sorry===

    And that really made me think into switching to another browser, one which have nice tab grouping abilities. Unfortunately, there is none that would have as good implementation as Tab Groups plugin for Firefox, neither as a feature, or plugin, but the one in Vivaldi looks really promising.

    But there is one thing that basically disqualifies this browser completly: It shuffles tabs in groups every time I add or remove a tab from it. And since I move tabs between groups a lot, and want to be able to find the tab I want between 5/10/20/50 opened tabs quickly, this is a no-go.

    I don't see option to disable that neither, so is there a way to fix that, or will it be added/fixed in next version of Vivaldi, or is it "a feature"?

    Edit: not mentioning that there is no way to move tabs within groups

  • Moderator

    You can post your request for such feature here. You should probably check that thread first to see if a similar request hasn't been made yet (I believe that there was a request to allow users to change the order of tabs within tab stacks). You can also take a look at requests made by other people and vote for them if you'd like to see those features in future releases of Vivaldi.

    Just keep in mind that Vivaldi developers are a considerably small team (compared to other companies behind other browsers) and they have plenty of work to do, like fixing bugs, keeping up with Chromium updates, working on new features, maintaining their web services etc. And they also need to sleep from time to time! 😉

    This means that they have to make priorities. Things that affect a lot of users (or easy to implement features) are usually addressed first. Things that are hard to implement/fix or affect a small percentage of users would probably have to wait...

    So, you might download a new version of Vivaldi and find out that none of the features or bug fixes that you requested has been added. But don't lose your hope! It may take some time, but they promise to listen to our voices and to give us every feature that we want*. Of course, the requests have to be reasonable (and not too difficult to implement) - it's a web browser after all and it surely won't do everything. Perhaps you'll never see a prompt in your browser that the coffee maker in your kitchen has just finished preparing your favorite coffee (though you never know 😁)...

    But until you get your features, you can keep checking back here once in a while, and post your requests again when a new version of the browser rolls out and a new feature requests thread starts. You can also tell your friends about this browser if you like it so far. The faster its user base grows, the faster it'll develop. 👍

    * Here are a few quotes from various interviews with the Vivaldi's CEO, Jon von Tetzchner:

    IBTimes: Vivaldi founder Jon von Tetzchner on why Vivaldi is your next browser

    We believe that people are different and they have different preferences. We put in features because people want them to be there. We don't need all the users to ask for something for us to add it in. If one user asks for it and it is something reasonable to do, then we will put it in. That's the basic rule.
    We get a lot of requests, but we cannot do them all at once. But we believe every user should be respected and if there is a requirement we do it. (...)
    We listen to the feedback that we get. We change the browser based on the requirement of the user. Our motto is "when in doubt, make it an option."

    WebdesignerDepot: The big interview: Jon von Tetzchner talks Vivaldi

    (...) we see every user as being different, and we see their requirements, and their requirements differ. It’s our job to adapt to your requirements, so whatever your requirements are. (...)
    We’re not a single-feature browser. Our approach is singular. It’s really about every single user and acknowledging that we’re all different. We all have different requirements, and they’re all equally valuable.

    Mint: Jon von Tetzchner: Every user is different; everyone has a right to be heard

    We believe that we are all different, and we have different requirements and adapting to those requirements is what we should do in software. We all have the same rights to be heard, and our decision-making is based on feedback. We don’t monitor people’s computer, but rather they tell us what they want. (...)
    The principle being we are building a browser for our friends, we’ll listen to people, we’ll add whatever they ask us to do, and then we innovate.

  • @krysztal Yeah I've observed similar tab placement issues for stacks as well. Looks like a bug

  • Moderator

    Please report this issue as a bug.
    And if you can make a screenrecording tos show this issue, a video is more than only words.

    How to do a bugreport for Vivaldi
    Report the bug at
    Describe the issue as precise as you can.
    If you use any extensions please give information which ones you use.
    If you have a URL or a own testpage which can checked, add it to the bugreport.
    If you have own testcase files (HTML, CSS, JS etc.) add them to the confirmation mail you get after report.
    If you have a screenrecording video, you can attach it to give the developers a hint how this might happen or look like.
    You will get a bug confirmation mail and in a reply to this mail you can add more information and files as attachments for the testers and bug tracking team.

    Thanks in advance for helping us to make Vivaldi better!

  • In the meantime you might "workaround" with using "F2" this opens the quick-command menu.
    Just type a few letters of the tab headline or the website-url and you should get some proper results.
    Of course this has its limits too - at least when you opened 30 tabs from the same site and need to find one specific this method will fail you but otherwise it might become a workaround.

  • Whops. Went offline for a few days and then forgot about this. I'll report it now, thanks Gwen-Dragon


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