Apparently the best in web design…



  • One of my subscriptions is to TechRepublic... [url=http://www.techrepublic.com/pictures/the-best-web-designs-of-2013/][b][u]Here[/u][/b][/url] one of their number offers his take on the best designed pages of 2013. On a personal note, the comments section is very interesting.



  • Interesting design on Vivaldi - the link in your post is so well hidden ("highlighted" in dark grey) that I did not see it at first.

    And the comments at the site were, indeed, very interesting. The world has too many «web designers» and too few competent user interface engineers. That, by the way, is Jon's area of expertise, so I hope he will be doing some hands-on supervision.



  • Quite right.

    A number of years ago one of our developers decided to give me a preview of his new interface.
    From a development perspective it was good but from a use perspective it needed considerable improvement.
    He did learn from that. Every time after he had everyday users evaluate new interfaces and took their advice.



  • Sounds like our country's "insurance sign-up" debacle, in that sense. They were saying how good the website was until it actually went online …



  • @sgunhouse:

    Sounds like our country's "insurance sign-up" debacle, in that sense. They were saying how good the website was until it actually went online …

    Apparently they decided to keep external testing out of the contract to save money…

    It also seems to be designed in order to prevent as many as possible from getting registered. This is, after all, about getting a quote for a service people are going to pay for. Still, the "designers" have gone out of their way to verify and double check the identity of any potential customers much more rigidly than any credit card or "quick loan" company.

    As a case study, it will probably be used in the future to show how not to design user registration. One of the fundamentals is not to ask for more information than you actually need. I do not know how many times I have quit a user signup because they asked for more information than was needed for the purpose.



  • @bv:

    Interesting design on Vivaldi - the link in your post is so well hidden ("highlighted" in dark grey) that I did not see it at first.

    Custom CSS kick ass :silly:
    http://www.dropmocks.com/mC4BG4

    (links, quotes, wider, no 3D buttons….I've made my own with Stylebot, very easy)



  • @greybeard:

    Here one of their number offers his take on the best designed pages of 2013.

    I wonder what I have to switch on to use that site:
    No content blocker active, cookies allowed - but no 3rd party, Javascript allowed, Referrer allowed, no plugins.

    OK, they want me to switch the browser - fine - I did that and looked at the examples of "best web design".
    Sorry, they are not.
    I am disappointed.
    Mostly meaningless pages with not enough content to be of any interest.

    Several of them are purely experimental and exclude me even if I use the latest top notch Chromium build of today, or Firefox or whatever.

    Oh, I shall set experimental flags?
    Are they nuts?!
    I will not do anything that might make my browser instable.

    (OK, OK. I did it, but I will not recommend it to the casual browser user for sure - and I am still not impressed)

    Conclusion:
    The best on that techrepublic page is the 2 parts comment of wizarddrummer …



  • Same conclusions here…



  • As I get older I find the web more and more difficult to use. I am not uneducated in this area having used the Internet before there was a WWW.
    I don't know if it is me or the website but a fair number are incomprehensible. Click areas are hard to find. The pastel colors are hard to decipher. The old "Go to top" or "Top" links are no where to be seen.
    Generally, the top web retailers have got it right. They don't break my 1st rule of business "Never stand in the way of the customer giving you his money.
    Many don't seem to be be focused on their mission.
    Pretty pictures are fine but not when they get in the way of what the website is about.



  • I have to agree. Web design seems more about eye candy and flash than a usable site.
    I have to start using the phone again explaining that I can no longer find what used to be one click away to do my business. I am told in their "New and Improved Site" I must go to this menu item then pick that an now go to…



  • @greybeard:

    I am told in their "New and Improved Site" I must go to this menu item then pick that an now go to…

    That reminds me of the time when SUN hired the Norman/Nielsen Group to improve their website - after they were finished, you could reach each of the more than 200k single pages with less than 6 clicks, on average not more than 4, despite there were hardly more than 8 to 10 navigation items on each page - and if you still did not find what you were looking for, there was a clearly visible site search that gave decent results, not the usual stuff you get from most site searches.

    IMHO it was a near perfect solution.

    Sadly it went all downhill again when someone else thought the site was not "fancy" enough and redesigned it some years later.



  • That sounds like a perfect example.
    A most unfortunate trend.



  • Hmmmm,,,,

    That makes THREE 'Grey-Beard-o' types in this thread, as I am one too. B)

    Yes, I agree wholeheartedly that far too many web sites these days are not intuitively designed and/or unfriendly in one way or another.

    Hey, just the fact that the hardware industry has unilaterally and arbitrarily rammed wide-profile monitors down the collective throats of mainstream computer users during the past few years only makes worse one other web design lament of mine - that MANY web pages still are FAR TOO TALL !

    And I am not sure how I missed this thread before, but your bracketed link to here from the post in MY thread about link colour https://vivaldi.net/forum/suggestion-box/305-message-board-blog-theme-elements-links sure works better - and so does my underlining - MUCH more visible - than what they have in place at Vivaldi right now !!! :ohmy:

    And yes, I HAVE considered doing some custom CSS to change the link attributes here, as I do already use FireFox, and have done this to fix a few other issues which stem from seemingly unilateral and arbitrary changes which the authors of FF have made only too frequently to how IT works.

    BTW, is link colour a parameter which is adjustable within FireFox's about:config ?

    But still, why should WE, the users, have to clean up everyone ELSE's messes, when they design web sites without proper forethought to ergonomics and such ?!

    And admins, please understand that the general issue is MUCH more widespread than what we have mentioned about Vivialdi alone - It's just that your 'LINK THING' got us all going about a considerably larger scale lament. ;)



  • "is link colour a parameter which is adjustable within FireFox's about:config"

    not that I can see, but I'm not a FF user. (Something about 'layout.css.visited_links_enabled', but that is all I see.)

    "MANY web pages still are FAR TOO TALL."

    Absolutely, but I guess it is always a compromise. With a widescreen laptop and desktop monitor I see it all the time.

    "I HAVE considered doing some custom CSS to change the link attributes here"

    Me too. But I am not familiar with css… some HTML, but that's it.



  • … one of the first things I made when I arrived here was this:
    https://vivaldi.net/blogs/entry/just-another-usercss-for-this-site

    May be it is a starting point for your own CSS experiments.

    Made for Opera <15 to be used as site specific CSS - but may be with some extension or so it is of use for Fx and Ch users too.



  • Many Thanks QuHno.

    Will start my learning experience with it.

    :cheer:



  • @QuHno:

    … one of the first things I made when I arrived here was this:
    https://vivaldi.net/blogs/entry/just-another-usercss-for-this-site

    May be it is a starting point for your own CSS experiments.

    Made for Opera <15 to be used as site specific CSS - but may be with some extension or so it is of use for Fx and Ch users too.

    With this Extension it should also work in Opium: User CSS



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  • @vincebeny:

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    I disagree with you, a stylish website gets a quick click out from me. Websites, for me, should be more about business and less about style.


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