Search in the search bar is carried in the last search engine selected ALWAYS

[Med1aN1ck]

The search in the search bar is performed in the last selected search engine first, always! It's very time consuming, is there a remedy? Thanks

[iAN CooG]

It's actually a feature, you make it sound as a bug or annoyance. Select the search engine you prefer and keep that. For example i have default search engine in address bar set to google, and that's always the default, in the search bar uses the last one selected there so I can use another without changing it in the settings.

[Med1aN1ck]

iAN_CooG,

I didn't specify it in my first post that this occurs even after I have specifically picked a certan SE from the drop down menu - NOT merely when making a search in a new tab .. It's very annoying and time consuming, could there be aremedy? Thanks

[Med1aN1ck]

@iAN-CooG

I search multiple search engines daily. Youtube, Wiki, Theasaurus.com, Dictionary.com, as well as an online translator, I need the search be performed in the SE selected on the first command, repeating it is VERY tedious.

I want to make clear - this is is NOT "a feature"; I type in a search term, press "Down" to call up the drop-down menu and then select an SE and Vivaldi does NOT search in it, rather flashes for an instance the selected SE in the address bar and then redirects searching to the last used. And you have TO PERFORM THE SEARCH OPERATION AGAIN!!! It requires double the time and effort, it's horrible; it is NOT the standard feature behaviour. When you click with the mouse on an SE in the drop-down menu, the search occurs on first instance! And that is what I want as standard behaviour for the keyboard as well! Can it be done? Btw Vivaldi is a great browser to which I switched a week ago after Firefox, as an inadeqaute replacement for Opera 12.

[mib2berlin]

Hi, calm down, you are the first user mention it since Vivaldi is published iirc.
What you need is not was every user need.
I don´t need it at all, for example.

Cheers, mib

[Ayespy]

@mib2berlin - This isn't the first report. I think this bug was fixed once already, but perhaps there is a regression. User should file a bug report.

[TbGbe]

@Med1aN1ck said in Search in the search bar is carried in the last search engine selected ALWAYS:

I want to make clear - this is is NOT "a feature"; I type in a search term, press "Down" to call up the drop-down menu and then select an SE and Vivaldi does NOT search in it,

Not sure if it helps but I tried this and cannot reproduce using using Vivaldi 1.6.689.13 (64-bit) on Linux.
Usually, I use the mouse to select the desired search engine (either before or after entering search term) and still don't see this behaviour.

[pafflick]

I can confirm that bug on Vivaldi ver. 1.5.658.56 (Stable Channel, 32-bit) on Windows 10 x64. If you select the Search Engine (switching from currently selected to any other) using arrow keys on your keyboard and then press enter, Vivaldi will search for the phrase using the previously selected SE. You need to manually focus the search field again and then press enter for the second time to perform search in the desired SE, that you just selected.

It's that @Med1aN1ck's explanation of that issue is so vague and chaotic, that it took me a while to figure out what he meant. And his first question was so unclear, that no one should blame @iAN-CooG for misinterpreting it...

[Med1aN1ck]

@TbGbe, @pafflick,

I use Vivaldi 1.5.658.56 32bit on Win 8.1. It seems that upon a fresh re-install yesterday, this malfunction has disappeared, but it then came back. Sorry for not having explained it clear enough in the first posting ... With that bug fixed, it would only be the rocker gestures to cycle through tabs and the incompatible youtube separate window extension that would fail to make Vivaldi a perfect browser for me. Firefox was/is an unpleasant experience.

@Ayespy,
I think I'll do it, later, when I have time.

@mib2berlin,
you missed the point - it is after I open and manually choose (via keyboard) a search engine from the drop-down list, that a search in the wrong one (not the selected) is performed, which makes it such an inconvenience and nuisance for me NOT merely a 'type & enter' search which selects the last used & not the default search engine ..

to all: I would have replied earlier, but the notification appeared only a few minutes ago and I didn't check the thread manually, sorry ..

[TbGbe]

@pafflick said in Search in the search bar is carried in the last search engine selected ALWAYS:

Vivaldi ver. 1.5.658.56 (Stable Channel, 32-bit) on Windows 10 x64.

@Med1aN1ck

Vivaldi 1.5.658.56 32bit on Win 8.1.

Ok. I rechecked in 1.5 and also reproduced.
So I believe that bug is solved in the latest Snapshot so no bug report would be needed (unless it is Windows only - @Ayespy can you confirm?).

Get it from here Snapshot 1.6.689.13

[Med1aN1ck]

@TbGbe
Installed the 1.6.689.13 (64bit) version and the upgrade onto the previous 32bit one went surprisingly smoothly? (Even the settings were kept) The bug is gone! Thanks for the help. I want to ask another question: can a separate keyboard shortcut be assigned to "show the drop-down list of search engines", when the focus is in the searh bar - like "Alt+Down" used to do in Opera - as when the list of instant suggestions appears, the "Down" key goes through the list and does not invoke the search engines list?

Also, why do the instant suggestions come only from Bing, whereas Google is set as the default search engine? They are enabled in the Google's settings and set for "always show".

[iAN CooG]

@Med1aN1ck because Vivaldi does not have the "rights" to have it as default, if I'm not mistaken.
Edit your search engines, at the google entry push the pencil to edit, adding in the 2nd box for the search suggestions
https://www.google.com/complete/search?client=opera&q=%s
and set google as your default

[Med1aN1ck]

@iAN-CooG
thanks for the suggestions URL, it does the job! What do you mean by Vivaldi not having rights - does Vivaldi have to ask some 'authority' before it can implement a default/new feature? Didn't get what you were implying by that.

[iAN CooG]

yes, Vivaldi appears to have a contract with Bing and Duckduckgo and not with Google, that's why Google is not a default search engine and doesn't have a suggestions search defined. Nothing stops anyone to create/alter engine strings, I have 15 for example.

[Med1aN1ck]

@iAN-CooG
I thought Vivaldi cannot implement the "Alt+Down" command to call up the SEs drop-down menu without asking permission somewhere and you were referring to that ... Yes, it's easy to edit the SEs in the Settings. And what about assigning a separate keyboard command to show the the list of SEs in the search bar, can Vivaldihooks perchance do that?

[iAN CooG]

doesn't just pushing cursor down show the list of engines for you?
if you already typed something and it's already showing the suggestions with the current SE, just press esc to exit edit mode then cursor down to change SE

[Med1aN1ck]

@iAN-CooG
the instant suggestions list interferes with it, you have to hit "Esc" and then "Down", that's why asked.

[TbGbe]

@Med1aN1ck said in Search in the search bar is carried in the last search engine selected ALWAYS:

Installed the 1.6.689.13 (64bit) version and the upgrade onto the previous 32bit one went surprisingly smoothly? (Even the settings were kept) The bug is gone! Thanks for the help.

Very surprising (32bit to 64bit!! ) - but if it solved the problem that's cool.
(Note: 64bit recommended for Linux; 32bit recommended for Windows; but I always used 64bit when I was on Windows as well).

@iAN-CooG

because Vivaldi does not have the "rights" to have it as default

Not quite - Vivaldi earns some money from the deals with Bing etc, but does NOT have such a deal with Google. So (by default) doesn't use Google search, but as you say users can "easily" switch to whichever SE they prefer.

[Med1aN1ck]

@TbGbe
Whoever Vivaldi aligns itself with, it should just keep up the good work, it is one great browser. Even the mammoth Google couldn't deliver a product as sensible as Vivaldi.