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      wpcoe
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      Not sure if this is a bug, but it sure doesn't perform as I expected: I have a web site built with the Tienne font throughout. For some reason Vivaldi reeks havoc with the font when it's bolded: [attachment=4471]tienne_test.gif[/attachment] The font, both regular and bolded, renders fine with Opera 12, Edge and IE11. [attachment=4472]tienne_test-(Opera12).gif[/attachment] Here's the HTML code for the web page in the screen shots above: [code] <title>Test of Tienne font</title> <link href="http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Tienne" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> <style>body {font-family: Tienne, sans-serif; font-size: 24px;}</style>

      <u>Normal weight</u>:
      Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm
      Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz

      <u>Bolded:</u>
      Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm
      Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz

      This is text in bold: looks like utter crap.
      This is non-bolded text. looks just fine!

      [/code] Attachments: [img]https://forum.vivaldi.net/uploads/attachments/81367/tienne_test.gif[/img],[img]https://forum.vivaldi.net/uploads/attachments/81367/tienne_test-(Opera12).gif[/img]

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      • Pesala
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        Pesala Ambassador
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        I think it's a generic problem with Chrome's font rendering.

        Blurry Fonts

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          wpcoe
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          Look at the uppercase T, S and C – that's not blurring, it's adding exaggerated vertical (serif?) strokes. And only when bold.

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          • Ayespy
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            Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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            Call it what you want. Chromium has borked font rendering, and Vivaldi DOES NOT do anything to it. It simply passes through the rendering (DirectWrite) that Chromium performs at this time. Either the Chromium Project is going to have to fix this, or Vivaldi will have to stop development to write a font rendering engine of their own.

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              wpcoe
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              Holy cr@p, you're right. Comodo Dragon, another Chromium browser, has the same rendering, so I need to find another font. The web pages, especially the headings which are bolded, look horrific. I was (am, actually) very happy with the appearance of Tienne. Thanks – to Google, I guess -- for screwing up such a basic thing as font rendering?

              Originally, I thought it was limited to just Vivaldi, and let's face it, Vivaldi doesn't have a large user base ... yet. If every Chromium browser screws up the font, it's a different story.

              Is there a list/database somewhere of which fonts are borked by Chromium and/or which ones are safe?

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              • Ayespy
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                Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                Sorry, no. Worst part of it is, a) Chrome has written their own adjustments into their code, which we don't share (chrome is not chromium) and b) the majority of systems don't share your problem with DirectWrite, so Chromium is unlikely to fix it.

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                  wpcoe
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                  Okay. So are you saying most other Chromium-based browsers have made adjustments to fix the font problem, but that Vivaldi is not likely to do so – at least not any time soon -- since they are focused on other development? 😞

                  FWIW, something happened with Vivaldi & Comodo Dragon (in the past few months?) to break the rendering of that font. I used to be able to view my web site in those two browsers and it was fine. Apparently something in the Chromium code itself was altered? Oh, well.

                  Regardless, I found a semi-suitable replacement for Tienne Bold for headings and updated all the .htm and .css files for my web site. Fingers are crossed that nothing happens to break that font. :lol:

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                    Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                    @wpcoe:

                    Okay. So are you saying most other Chromium-based browsers have made adjustments to fix the font problem, but that Vivaldi is not likely to do so – at least not any time soon -- since they are focused on other development? 😞

                    FWIW, something happened with Vivaldi & Comodo Dragon (in the past few months?) to break the rendering of that font. I used to be able to view my web site in those two browsers and it was fine. Apparently something in the Chromium code itself was altered? Oh, well.

                    Regardless, I found a semi-suitable replacement for Tienne Bold for headings and updated all the .htm and .css files for my web site. Fingers are crossed that nothing happens to break that font. :lol:

                    Writing one's own font rendering, especially for such a small team as Vivaldi's, is far from a trivial task.

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