KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid

[Dorcom]

KISS ( Acronym created by Kelly Johnson, Lockheed Martin Skunkworks chief engineer U2 and SR71 Blackbird.

KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid

Vivaldi (7.0.3495.29) "security" totally overdone!
I no longer can open or download any documents. I.e. Bank, PGE.
So much for"paper less".
All "blocked"
Stupid! Really Stupid!!!

KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid!
Useless browser, overengineered gadgetry I did not ask for!

[DoctorG]

@Dorcom

• Do not use a outdated 7.0 browser.
  https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/update-vivaldi/
• Do not block too much with ad-blocker extension.
  https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/tracking-and-ad-blocking/#Blocking_per_site

So simple. PEBKAC

[barbudo2005]

@Dorcom

Better BOSU.

[DoctorG]

@Dorcom said in KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid:

I no longer can open or download any documents

Do you want to download one document or many at once?

[WildEnte]

@barbudo2005 British Ophthalmological Surveillance Unit?

[barbudo2005]

@WildEnte

Said:

British Ophthalmological Surveillance Unit?

No. Cold, cold.

[WildEnte]

@barbudo2005 bearded ornithologist's social uniforms?

[barbudo2005]

@WildEnte

No, you are still very cold.

Explain to AI the first post of the user and ask it to tell you what BOSU is.

[barbudo2005]

@WildEnte

I did it myself. It was a good opportunity to test the AI (Grok, thanks @pesala for promoting it).
Sorry for the length but it was my first time, and I was giving the AI information a little at a time.

Q: In the vivaldi browser forum a user said that Vivaldi have to use KISS method, keep it simple stupid. Another user said is better BOSU. What is BOSU meaning?

In the context of the Vivaldi browser forum discussion you mentioned, where one user suggested the "KISS" method (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and another countered with "BOSU," the term "BOSU" doesn't appear to have a widely recognized or standard meaning specific to Vivaldi or browser design based on available information. However, we can infer its potential meaning from the context and common conventions in tech or design discussions.
"KISS" is a well-known principle advocating simplicity in design to avoid unnecessary complexity. When the second user suggests "BOSU" as a counterpoint, it implies BOSU might represent an alternative philosophy—possibly one that embraces more complexity, features, or flexibility, which aligns with Vivaldi's reputation as a highly customizable and feature-rich browser.
One plausible interpretation is that "BOSU" could be an acronym created playfully or spontaneously by the user to contrast with KISS. For example, it might stand for "Build On Sophisticated Utility" or "Bring On Super Utility," suggesting that Vivaldi’s strength lies in its sophisticated, powerful features rather than minimalism. Vivaldi is known for catering to power users with tools like tab stacking, extensive customization, and built-in utilities (e.g., email, calendar, and feed reader), which could justify a preference for a more complex approach over simplicity.
Alternatively, "BOSU" might not be an acronym at all but a typo, shorthand, or a term from another context (e.g., "Bosu" as in the fitness ball, though that seems unrelated). Without direct access to the forum post or a clear definition from the user, the exact meaning remains speculative. In tech forums, users sometimes coin terms on the fly, so it could be a one-off suggestion rather than an established concept.
Given Vivaldi’s design philosophy, BOSU likely reflects a preference for leveraging the browser’s advanced capabilities rather than stripping it down to a simpler form. If you’d like a more precise answer, could you clarify the full context or check the forum for any follow-up explanation from the user? For now, I’d interpret BOSU as an informal endorsement of Vivaldi’s feature-rich, complex-but-useful approach over the KISS principle’s simplicity.

Q: In the vivaldi browser forum a user said that Vivaldi have to use KISS method, keep it simple stupid. Another angry user said is to the user better BOSU. What is BOSU meaning?

Given the updated context where one user in the Vivaldi browser forum advocated for the "KISS" method (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and another "angry user" retorted that "BOSU" is better, the meaning of "BOSU" still isn’t explicitly defined in standard tech terminology or Vivaldi-specific documentation. However, the emotional tone and opposition to KISS provide clues for a reasonable interpretation.
The "KISS" principle pushes for simplicity and ease of use, suggesting Vivaldi might streamline its feature-heavy design. The angry response with "BOSU" implies a strong rejection of this, favoring something that likely embraces Vivaldi’s complexity or power-user focus. Since BOSU isn’t a known acronym in this domain, it’s probable the angry user coined it as a counterpoint, possibly with sarcastic or emphatic intent.
A likely interpretation is that "BOSU" stands for something like "Build On Sophisticated Use" or "Better Off Sophisticated User," emphasizing that Vivaldi’s strength lies in its advanced, customizable features—think tab stacking, mouse gestures, or integrated tools like email and notes—which appeal to users who want more control, not less complexity. The anger suggests a defensive stance, perhaps from someone who feels KISS undermines what makes Vivaldi unique compared to simpler browsers like Chrome.
Alternatively, BOSU could be a playful jab, like "Blow Off Simple Users," implying disdain for prioritizing beginners over power users. Without the exact forum text, it’s hard to pin down, but the contrast with KISS and the user’s frustration point to BOSU representing a pro-complexity, pro-customization philosophy tailored to Vivaldi’s identity.
For a definitive answer, you’d need to check the forum thread for any clarification from the user. Based on this, though, BOSU seems to mean favoring Vivaldi’s sophisticated, feature-rich design over simplifying it—delivered with some attitude!

Q: You said "Blow Off Simple Users," is almost true, Think more.

Fair enough—let’s dig deeper into "BOSU" based on the context of the Vivaldi forum, where one user pushed for "KISS" (Keep It Simple, Stupid) and an angry user shot back that "BOSU" is better. I suggested "Blow Off Simple Users" as a playful, attitude-laden possibility, but you’re right to nudge me toward refining it. The angry tone and opposition to simplicity still hint at something pointed, maybe even snarkier or more specific to Vivaldi’s ethos.
Rethinking it, "BOSU" could stand for "Back Off, Simple’s Useless" or "Better Off Shunning Unneeded-simplicity." These keep the aggressive vibe of an angry retort while doubling down on rejecting KISS. The angry user likely cherishes Vivaldi’s complexity—its dense menus, tweakable settings, and niche features—and sees simplification as a betrayal of its core audience: power users who thrive on that depth.
Another angle: "BOSU" might tweak KISS directly, like "Keep It Sophisticated, Understand?"—flipping "Stupid" into a challenge to appreciate Vivaldi’s learning curve. The anger suggests impatience with calls for dumbing it down, so it could even be "Bypass Overly Simple Usage," implying simple isn’t the goal; mastery is.
Without the exact post, I’m riffing on intent and tone. Vivaldi’s community often prides itself on the browser’s non-mainstream, anti-minimalist stance—think of its CEO Jon von Tetzchner’s roots with Opera’s feature-heavy days. So, "BOSU" probably encapsulates that spirit: a defiant cheer for complexity, with a middle finger to KISS. What do you think—does "Back Off, Simple’s Useless" hit the mark, or should I tweak it further?

Q: Bosu is directed to the user who wrote KISS and not to the browser.

Got it—thanks for the clarification! Since "BOSU" is directed at the user who suggested "KISS" (Keep It Simple, Stupid) rather than Vivaldi itself, the angry response shifts from a design philosophy to a personal jab or critique of that user’s stance. This reframes "BOSU" as less about the browser’s identity and more about dismissing or mocking the KISS advocate’s preference for simplicity.
In this light, "BOSU" could stand for something like "Back Off, Simplicity User" or "Better Off, Simpleton User"—a direct, snarky retort implying the KISS proponent doesn’t get Vivaldi’s appeal and should stick to basic browsers. The anger suggests frustration, maybe from a power user who sees the call for simplicity as naive or out of touch with Vivaldi’s niche.
Another possibility: "Bored Of Simple Users," hinting the angry responder is fed up with people pushing minimalism in a space that thrives on complexity. Or even "Begone, Overly Simple Underling," leaning into the irritation with a touch of superiority—Vivaldi’s community can be passionate, even elitist, about its customization chops.
Since it’s aimed at the person, "BOSU" likely keeps it personal and biting, reflecting annoyance at the KISS suggestion itself. I’d lean toward "Back Off, Simplicity User" as a clean fit—direct, tied to the context, and carrying that angry edge. Does that feel right, or want me to sharpen it more?

Q: Not yet.

Alright, let’s refine it further. Since "BOSU" is an angry retort aimed specifically at the user who suggested "KISS" (Keep It Simple, Stupid) in the Vivaldi forum, it’s a targeted jab—personal, sharp, and tied to their advocacy for simplicity. The anger implies a mix of disdain and exasperation, likely from someone who sees the KISS stance as missing the point of Vivaldi’s power-user appeal. We’re looking for something that fits the tone and context without drifting too far afield.
Reconsidering, "BOSU" might be "Buzz Off, Simpleton User"—short, punchy, and dismissive, with "Simpleton" echoing "Stupid" from KISS to throw it back in their face. It’s a bit harsher than "Back Off, Simplicity User," matching the anger while staying directed at the person.
Or take it tighter: "Butt Out, Simple Utopian"—suggesting the KISS user’s simplicity push is some naive dream, out of sync with Vivaldi’s reality. "Utopian" adds a sarcastic twist, implying their ideal is impractical here.
One more: "Back Off, Stupid’s Useless"—a direct flip of KISS, keeping its structure but rejecting "Simple" as worthless, aimed squarely at the user’s logic. It’s got bite and mirrors the original acronym’s style, which might appeal to an angry forum quip.
I’m homing in on that irritated, user-focused snapback. "Buzz Off, Simpleton User" feels like it lands the punch—does it click, or should I keep grinding?

Q: The exact post was:

KISS ( Acronym created by Kelly Johnson, Lockheed Martin Skunkworks chief engineer U2 and SR71 Blackbird.
KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid
Vivaldi (7.0.3495.29) "security" totally overdone!
I no longer can open or download any documents. I.e. Bank, PGE.
So much for"paper less".
All "blocked"
Stupid! Really Stupid!!!
KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid!
Useless browser, overengineered gadgetry I did not ask for!

Thanks for sharing the exact post—it really clarifies the context! The first user is frustrated with Vivaldi’s overly complex security settings in version 7.0.3495.29, blocking practical tasks like opening or downloading bank and PGE (likely Pacific Gas and Electric) documents. They invoke "KISS" (Keep It Simple, Stupid), citing its origins with Kelly Johnson of Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works (known for the U2 and SR-71 Blackbird), to argue that Vivaldi’s "overengineered gadgetry" has made it a "useless browser." Their tone is irritated, emphasizing simplicity for usability.
Now, the angry response saying "BOSU is better" comes from another user defending Vivaldi against this KISS critique. Since "BOSU" targets the KISS user, not the browser, it’s a personal counterattack—likely mocking or dismissing their preference for simplicity in a browser known for its complexity and customization.
With this in mind, "BOSU" could be "Back Off, Simplicity Obsessed User." It keeps the focus on the KISS advocate, jabbing at their fixation on simplicity as misguided for Vivaldi’s ethos. The anger fits—imagine a diehard Vivaldi fan bristling at someone trashing its features over a security hiccup.
Or, sharper: "Buzz Off, Simple’s Overrated, User"—flipping KISS’s "Stupid" into a retort that simplicity isn’t the holy grail, aimed at the complainer’s rant about "stupid" overengineering.
Given the original post’s double "Stupid! Really Stupid!!!" and "KISS" repetition, "BOSU" might echo that rhythm: "Back Off, Stupid User"—direct, raw, and matching the heated exchange, implying the KISS user’s take is the real stupidity.
I’d lean toward "Back Off, Simplicity Obsessed User" for precision—tying into their KISS obsession while keeping the angry rebuttal personal. Does that nail it, or still off the mark?

[WildEnte]

@barbudo2005 ah. Don't like it.

[TbGbe]

@WildEnte Try - B****r Off and Shut Up!

[Pesala]

@barbudo2005 That is a surprisingly detailed reply, and quite human-like. A lot of communication issues arise from the use of acronyms — it is often better to use plain English. I still have no clue what BOSU means.

KISS, and PEBKAC are both fairly well known, but may be meaningless to those for whom English is a second language.

The thread topic is worthy of discussion, if people could just remain civil. Vivaldi aims to provide a lot of features and customisability options, as did Opera 12.18.

There are still a number of Opera features that I miss, but Vivaldi is a nightmare to support, and features never seem to get polished, or some regressions remain for months or years, which is frustrating. One cannot go back to an earlier version to restore the previous functionality.

[WildEnte]

@TbGbe @barbudo2005 why do we as regulars on the forum have to use that kind of tone?

[Catweazle]

I perfectly understand that for some users Vivaldi is not a browser to their liking, However, I do not understand why they continue use it and on the other hand of entering the forum to insult it as stupid, instead of simply asking what this problem with Vivaldi they had, which, apparently, others cannot reproduce, or simply use alguno of the other 100 browsers that are out there.
With this behavior, it cannot be surprised that the responses of other users, who voluntarily try to help, are corresponding to this.

[TbGbe]

@WildEnte I was simply offering an suggestion to the acronym; I am not using (or implying) that we should use it.

[barbudo2005]

@WildEnte

Said:

ah. Don't like it.

What didn't you like?

The AI rationing or the meaning of the acronym?

Said:

why do we as regulars on the forum have to use that kind of tone?

What a bad tone I have used does not correspond?

[barbudo2005]

@Catweazle

Said:

However, I do not understand why they continue use it and on the other hand of entering the forum to insult it as stupid...

Why do I have to willingly accept that a person comes to my home, yes, my home, to tell me that the browser I use is stupid?

Because if I use a browser that is stupid, it is clearly understood that I am nothing but a stupid person for using it. Or not?

[DoctorG]

@Dorcom said in KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid:

overengineered gadgetry

Yes, some users have such opinion on Vivaldi browser.
You are free not to use these "gadgets".
But if you really need a naked browser with no gadgets, you would be pleased to use a Ungoogled Chromium.

Thanks for your opinion.

Stupid! Really Stupid!!!

Broken download is called a bug.
Known bug when trying to download many downloads at once and needs a fix.

[barbudo2005]

@Pesala

Said:

it is often better to use plain English.

Since he and @DoctorG used an acronym, I played along by using a made up one with the word he used, so as not to insult him like he did to ALL of us who are perfectly stupid for using Vivaldi.

I still have no clue what BOSU means.

In the end the Grok figured it out, just change “Back” for “Better”.

[barbudo2005]

@DoctorG

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overengineered gadgetry

Yes, some users have such opinion on Vivaldi browser.

I ask those characters who think that, how would you like all those “gadgests” that bother you that they exist but do no harm if you don't use them, that are going to be taken out, but by the way also CSS and JS mods come out? What would they say?

When you go to a fast food place and order a combo, it comes complete with everything, and therefore you have to accept it as it comes.

In my country, when someone complains that his mother-in-law or the bride's brother is a pain in the ass, the answer is “Don't just marry the bride, marry all her family”.