Gmail and some emails not showing up in Vivaldi Mail
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Good morning, i have strange behavior with my email in Vivaldi Mail.
If I go to the "inbox" in Gmail, i have some emails that are not there in the "inbox" of Vivaldi Mail, even when doing a search with the subject of the email or the sender in Vivaldi they do not appear.
By checking in Gmail i don't notice any difference compared to the emails which are correctly displayed in Vivaldi Mail.
I have no idea when this problem happened to me, i noticed it because they told me they sent me an email but it didn't appear in Vivaldi and by going to Gmail i found it correctly in the "inbox". While checking, i realized that there were other emails that are not shown in Vivaldi.
Do you know what it could depend on?I'm on Windows 11 - Snapshot 3527.3
IMAP - OAuth and no errors are reported in the log.PS: On my smartphone i use Edison Mail, configured in IMAP, and the problem does not occur.
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@Folgore101
Hi, did you check All Messages?
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I sent a message to my Gmail account from my Vivaldi.net account.
Opera 12.18 fetched it OK, and the messages shows up in my Webmail account, but so far, Vivaldi does not show it as received; only as sent.
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Hm, work for me:
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@mib2berlin Yes, i looked everywhere, i also did searches by subject and sender but in Vivaldi Mail they are not displayed.
@Pesala From my Vivaldi account, i have never had problems receiving emails on Gmail/Vivaldi Mail, but this evening i will check to be sure.
PS: @Pesala Did the test, it arrived a couple of seconds after sending, with Vivaldi account no viewing problems.
"Non è tanto chi sei quanto quello che fai che ti qualifica" - "Il coraggio non è la mancanza di paura ma bensì la consapevolezza che qualcosa sia più importante della paura stessa" - Vivaldi il browser che si adatta all'utente
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@Folgore101 My email finally arrived. I am not sure how long it took. Maybe a restart of Vivaldi fixed it.
Another test, and it arrived within a few seconds.
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I am having a similar issue. I have not as yet re-programmed the Gmail account within the Vivaldi browser.
I access my account in several locations and using different mail clients. So far my tests suggest that there is a problem on the Gmail end with their IMAP or OATH2 systems.
I just sent a test message to my Gmail account from a different private domain and it never displayed in the Vivaldi browser mail app. I get an error message stating that Vivaldi could not get in.
Using Betterbird, which is a clone of Thunderbird, I often have a delay in messages being pulled down. Sometimes I will get the headers but the message body is quite delayed.
I thought this was on the Betterbird side but since Vivaldi is also having an issue it has to be on the Gmail end. Oddly, and maybe not so, accessing my Gmail via a web browser has no issues.
The last time Vivaldi's built-in client was able to get Gmail was sometime a day ago.
I will try deleting the address and reloading it with a fresh OATH2 to see what happens when time permits but I frankly do not believe this will change anything since I already did that with Betterbird, and even reinstalled the whole program with all fresh OATH2 connections.
In fact on Betterbird I have several Gmails (self and wife for example) and both are exhibiting the same problem. I even turned off my anti-virus to see if that was the culprit and it is not.
EDIT - This is the error Vivaldi mail is getting.
[imap, [email protected]]Fetch raw Error: Not connected - Attempting to connect [email protected]
So it appears Gmail is borked
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Follow up.
I tried to reset the OATH2 security feature for Vivaldi. I deleted the authority on the Gmail end, then went back to Vivaldi to create a new authorization.
According to Google, Vivaldi mail and calendar is allowed access but the mail app within the browser is not being allowed to interact with the Gmail IMAP servers.
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I did a test by reconfiguring the mail on a new installation and on the first import it shows me all the mails that i didn't see before.
At this point i believe there are no alternatives, i will arm myself with infinite patience and make a clean profile by reconfiguring everything, hoping that the problem does not return. -
@Folgore101 For now I removed my Gmail account from the Vivaldi browser and will try again later. What I have noticed the last couple of days is that when using BetterBird (Thunderbird clone) at some times of the day (particularly late afternoon EST) that BB lags in collecting message headers and bodies. Early morning or at night things seem OK.
This suggests that maybe the IMAP servers at Google are being overwhelmed. I am experiencing this over multiple Gmails I manage for clients or self. With 2-3 messages things seem ok but when you get into the 20-30 range things bog down.
However the refusal of an OATH2 OK'd client, specifically the Vivaldi Browser mail client to connect to their IMAP is also spooky. I have posted elsewhere to see if other Gmail users are seeing similar. No replies as yet.
I'm open to starting a new profile but do not know location of those files.
Off topic... I have an eMClient program at one office I use and that has been giving me contact list errors for 2 Gmail accounts on that system. Those are not the same as what i am having an issue with on my home office and remote office locations. Gmail is sounding borked.
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@dmkroslindale I removed the Gmail account last night and then reconfigured it and it seems to work. Now i'll check it for a few days to see if the problem returns or was just a temporary bug.
I didn't notice any delays in the collection of message headers and bodies, but using it only in the evening after 18:30 i don't know if it happens during the day.
This could also be caused by the internet network in the area having excessive loads at certain times.For your profile location go to In V → Help → About Vivaldi
Close Vivaldi and then rename the "Default" folder to "Default.old" and when you start it again it starts as if it had just been installed.Here you will find a guide on the procedures and files to save, if you have any doubts, just ask.
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@Pesala said in Gmail and some emails not showing up in Vivaldi Mail:
I sent a message to my Gmail account from my Vivaldi.net account.
Opera 12.18 fetched it OK, and the messages shows up in my Webmail account, but so far, Vivaldi does not show it as received; only as sent.
I just tried the same. It was in the Gmail Inbox, but the message counter didn't display in the side panel, as it is deduplicated (in both Vivaldi Sent and Gmail Inbox). The message counter showed the 1 for both accounts in the Mail panel itself, however.
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@edwardp I deleted the Gmail account from Vivaldi and waited a few days then added it back. It was able to get a few messages but never was able to sync about 450 messages. Now every time I launch the browser the mail client attempts to connect but gives a socket error and never connects to the IMAP server. My Google account shows that it has been approved and has the OATH2 Ok to proceed. None of my other mail clients are having an issue. I even shut off my anti-virus (AVG) in consideration that might be the problem but that did not produce any relief.
Worth noting (maybe) that I programmed in my Vivaldi.net mail box and that is able to connect with no issues.
I prefer to not do a reset unless totally needed since I have a lot of bookmarks and stored passwords and prefer not to have to reprogram all of that if possible.
I am concerned that Gmail may have changed something or is in process and Vivaldi may no longer be allowed. They have done this to other apps such as TypeApp for windows at one point forcing TypeApp to make a lot of changes.
EDIT - Also along with not connecting it is not pulling down this mornings new mail (obviously I guess.)
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@dmkroslindale There is a setting on the Gmail side under Forwarding and POP/IMAP, Folder Size Limits. The default option is unlimited, the other options limits it to 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 or 10,000 messages.
Assuming this selection is on unlimited, it should be syncing all of the messages.
The socket errors are a result of a disconnect between the end user and the remote mail server. I've always believed it is the remote mail server doing this, in this case, Gmail, but it's entirely possible that a disconnect can occur anywhere in the path between you and Gmail. Last week, I was unable to access my e-mail via my home ISP (Comcast, in the U.S.) because of socket timeout errors and this lasted for more than two days before it stopped.
I have two Gmail accounts added to Vivaldi Mail, neither account has a lot of regular messages, but one gets a lot of spam, despite having never having been on any mailing lists. For that account, I unsubscribed from the Spam folder, so I don't have to download it. I've had no sync issues so far, with either account.
What I can suggest right now, is to submit a bug report, provide as much information as possible, indicate what you've done up to now, what is occurring, what is not occurring and post the bug report number (VB-xxxxxx) here. Thank you for helping to make Vivaldi better.
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@edwardp It could be, it was set to 1000, now i put it the maximum.
The problem may also depend on the bug fixed in the last snapshot: [Mail] Some users are not getting new mail (VB-112020)
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@Folgore101 I have updated Vivaldi to the latest and noted that in the changelog. I will try again in a couple of days.
The last attempt at adding in my Gmail would see me get most of the messages including new ones, but after I closed the browser and came back later, nothing would sync and no new messages would come in, and a list of never-ending socket errors.
Too busy right now but will play with it when time permits.
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@dmkroslindale Since i deleted the account and re-entered it i haven't had any more problems, but the new update was also released immediately afterwards and so i can't say for sure who fixed the problem. The important thing is that it doesn't happen again.
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~~@Folgore101 Well I tried again with no luck. Google says I have OATH authorization for Vivaldi Mail and calendar but it consistently has socket errors.
I also set the email settings to only pull down 1 months of past messages but it pulled does all the way back to August which is what my actual Gmail account has and that is about 1000 messages or so.
I'm attaching a sample of the error log here with my e-mail address edited but as you can see it seems to not be connecting properly with the Gmail IMAP server, yet I have tested it and I have the backlog of messages and it can send mail. However every time I launch the browser now it goes into the loop and just keeps generating errors.
I also have Vivaldi's free e-mail set up at Vivaldi.Net and that is working fine. So this problem is ongoing for weeks now. Everything else internet is working fine.
-------------------~~14:13:17.505 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:13:17.642 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Not connected - Attempting to connect [email protected] Error: Not connected - Attempting to connect [email protected] at ua (chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:69165) at ma (chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:70860) at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:83094 at o (chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:84319) at async Object._runNextInLine (chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:68475) at async Object._processQueue (chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:68301) 14:13:17.642 error [Mail - imap, [email protected], prefetch] Not connected - Attempting to connect [email protected] 14:13:30.472 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:13:49.144 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:14:08.135 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:14:27.009 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:14:45.943 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:15:04.797 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499 14:15:23.752 warn [Mail - imap, [email protected]] Fetch raw Error: Socket timed out! Error: Socket timed out! at chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/background-bundle.js:1:220499
EDIT: Also discovered that after the initial download of mail on the Gmail IMAP server, it will not receive any new mail after that.
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@dmkroslindale Really strange, i'm not particularly technical but isn't that "chrome-extension" that you have some extension that is causing problems?
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@dmkroslindale said in Gmail and some emails not showing up in Vivaldi Mail:
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One might consider that. I did a net search and found that this is a known issue for some and sometimes points to the Vivaldi Calendar being broken. I found that here in this forum dating back some time, like 2023 and 2022. This is a Chrome extension that is built in and not an add-on or so I read. I do not use Calendar and it was not set up.
I did check another computer I have with an older copy of Vivaldi installed and found one extension on my current system called "Authenticator" that is not on the older system and I have no memory of installing this. I speculate this may be possibly interfering with Google's OATH2. "Authenticator" may have bene installed by me due to the increase in seeking to move to a "passcode" system, but I have never used it. I will shut it off and do further testing after my work-day is done.
