Backup a la mozbackup style



  • yo dudes. im gonna reinstall windows soon so i would like to make a complete backup of vivaldi, as in passwords, username, bookmarks, extensions, settings etc. is there an Equivalent to mozbackup for vivaldi? if not, what do i manually need to backup in order to restore it to 100% after windows format?



  • Hi, you can save the "default" folder in your home directory and copy it over the new one.
    Passwords are not working AFAIK, it is possible it work with the same system/username for your new install but I don´t know for sure.
    Path of the folder is in Vivaldi help menu > about.

    Cheers, mib



  • I'd say you probably need to copy entire User Data folder (just make sure Vivaldi is closed), then remove all files from User Data\Default\Cache. Then just ZIP what's left.

    Vivaldi really needs some simple profile backup/restore manager to be built in pretty fast. And also radically improving profile import (along with extensions, extension settings and so on) from Chrome would be very nice.

    I spent entire day setting things up.



  • I STRONGLY agree with this.



  • A word of warning in the subject. It seems like there's no way at all to copy passwords from one Vivaldi installation to Vivaldi profile on another system. It's protected and this apparently cannot be helped now.

    The only way known to me ATM is to copy passwords file from Vivaldi profile to Chrome profile, let Chrome synchronize it to its installation on target system, then import passwords to Vivaldi on second system.

    Other than that Vivaldi profile copied and zipped should work fine. Just not passwords, because they are protected to prevent them from being stolen by being copied from profile folder.

    A word of warning. People wanting to transfer Chrome settings should not bother copying Chrome profile into Vivaldi profile folder. It doesn't work. Vivaldi will not see extensions nor extensions setting unless installed and set up manually. At least it didn't work when I tried it. I post it because some ppl out there recommment it as a way to transfer setting from Chrome to Vivaldi, but it's a complete waste of time. You can only sync things that import manager lets you at the moment, other than that you must set things up manually.



  • @premier69:

    yo dudes.

    im gonna reinstall windows soon so i would like to make a complete backup of vivaldi, as in passwords, username, bookmarks, extensions, settings etc. is there an Equivalent to mozbackup for vivaldi?

    if not, what do i manually need to backup in order to restore it to 100% after windows format?

    There's only one way I've always used for backing up things, Vivaldi and Firefox included - just archive the whole "C:\Users[your username]\AppData\Local\Vivaldi" and store it somewhere other than C: drive. After reinstalling just copy it back to its default location and you'll have everything.



  • After reinstalling just copy it back to its default location and you'll have everything.

    Everything except passwords. They're protected against being stolen by copying the files straight from profile folder.

    The only way to copy passwords is to copy them into Chrome profile folder and let Chrome synchronize them, then import them on target computer's installation of Vivaldi.



  • before formatting i did a copy of vivaldi in program files, appdata directories so obviously i missed something.



  • before formatting i did a copy of vivaldi in program files, appdata directories

    How did you name your user after you reinstalled the system? The same or was it different? Sometimes it matters from what I heard.



  • ah yeah that must have been it, I switched from the cloud based account to a local one.



  • You may want to copy your bookmarks, passwords and cookies to Chrome profile and let Google synchronize them next time you plan to change your username after you reinstall WIndows. Then you will at least have those. Extensions and their settings can be restored manually even if it's a pain in the butt.



  • Actually I did get some saves back after my restore.. For example my dark theme and the tabs I had open, but not the extensions



  • @GBozyk:

    After reinstalling just copy it back to its default location and you'll have everything.

    Everything except passwords. They're protected against being stolen by copying the files straight from profile folder.

    Not true. I have a full copy of my profile stored in a different location than C: drive and the passwords file is there too. If you try to view them, they are protected and you get NULLs because they're encrypted but if you copy the file - there's no problem. This is just a file, after all, and can be manipulated any way you like, except for direct reading. And you do realize that (again) this is just a file and if I wanna copy it to another location, nothing can stop me from doing so? I'll run a flash drive with Linux, if I have to, but I WILL copy it in order to store it before Windows installation, for instance.



  • I have a full copy of my profile stored in a different location than C: drive and the passwords file is there too.

    It's fine apparently as long as it's the same system. Trouble starts when you copy it to a different system. Or so people claim.



  • @GBozyk:

    I have a full copy of my profile stored in a different location than C: drive and the passwords file is there too.

    It's fine apparently as long as it's the same system. Trouble starts when you copy it to a different system. Or so people claim.

    Also not true. If people have problems copying the file to another system, I'm pretty sure this trouble isn't caused by the machine. I have a virtual machine with Windows 8.1 and my sister's computer is also with it. Only because of this post of yours I tried transfering my Vivaldi settings to both the virtual machine and my sister's computer. No troubles whatsoever to do that and the browser was able to display all of my profile passwords. I have the virtual machine for testing my program (I was in a course of C# programming and I needed a test environment for my program - a program for easy search on websites that don't have integrated search engine), so basically the virtual machine is quite a different system and so is my sister's computer. The browser doesn't make a difference between systems and it should be that way.
    The only way I see it could cause a problem, if those people were trying to copy the file while the browser was running or if they thought it was closed but its process wasn't terminated from the task manager. And it is a fact that when the excessive hard disk writing occurs, closing the browser with the X button doesn't terminate its process thus causing all sorts of problems, including an error when you try to overwrite files it continues to use.



  • The only way I see it could cause a problem, if those people were trying to copy the file while the browser was running or if they thought it was closed but its process wasn't terminated from the task manager.

    I'd like that to be true since this would make things far simpler.

    But being pretty cynical I'm also afraid that the authors may say "alright, so we don't need any built in backup manager since copying Vivaldi profile is so simple".



  • It's simple for tech savy people like us. But there are many people who spend 10 minutes a day trying to turn the computer on, let alone to do such complicated things as digging deep into directories in order to copy one.



  • Yup, I'd like a proper configuration backup feature built-in to the browser as well. However, I'm content to just do it manually so long as we can be assured of what files and/or reg data to grab. Looks like there's general consensus that the %LOCALAPPDATA%\Vivaldi\User Data folder is everything we need short of needing to reinstall any extensions…

    When I want to take an updated backup, I'll usually copy in my current 'golden / clean' config first... make any updated changes I want, close Vivaldi, then run the latest CCleaner to clean out cache and temp stuff, THEN copy the whole User Data folder someplace safe as an updated backup.

    So far, I haven't really seen any issues - but I haven't yet gone across different computers.



  • I went back to 'ol firefox. been using it for 12 years so.
    I have firefox synced over 2 win pc's and one linux plus my android phone so it makes more sense.



  • @rado84:

    @GBozyk:

    I have a full copy of my profile stored in a different location than C: drive and the passwords file is there too.

    It's fine apparently as long as it's the same system. Trouble starts when you copy it to a different system. Or so people claim.

    Also not true. If people have problems copying the file to another system, I'm pretty sure this trouble isn't caused by the machine. …

    As I understand how things are currently structured, encryption of passwords in chromium under Windows automatically occurs using a Windows-provided encryption API, which forms a unique hash of each stored password for a specific user account on a specific user system via machine/account-generated keys. Unless such encrypted passwords are decrypted from within the same user account on the same machine in which they were encrypted, they cannot be recovered or independently viewed since the identical keys will not be available elsewhere.

    Hence, one can save the password files to other drives, machines, accounts, the cloud, etc and recover them back into the original user account on the original system if it (and its account-unique keying) still exists intact. However, attempting to recover the passwords into a different user account or onto a different system should cause the password decryption process to fail, since the other account/system cannot replicate the identical keys required. The implications of the password encryption scheme are that if one has to blow away the user account, operate from a different computer, or import to another browser installation in another or new user account, the encrypted passwords should not be accessible outside the original user account. If that protection isn't happening, something significant is wrong with the original system's encryption mechanism or the browser installation.

    Similar action also currently occurs for the installation of extensions into Vivaldi, which makes then also non-transferable, hence they have to instead be reinstalled.


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