Tree Style Tab
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Registered to say this.I know I, and many other Chrome users would love to see tree stile tabs in Vivaldi. I switched to Chrome from Firefox because of the addon Tabs Outliner. It is by far the best tree style tabs system I have ever seen. I think the important parts are that it has tree style tabs (obviously), that it allows easy hibernation of tabs, and it saves the tree layout between sessions. This allows it to be used a bit like bookmarks, but with a saved hierarchy. The Part where it really shines is with labels. It allows you to put divider lines and text labels anywhere. It even has a backup system, so you don't accidentally loose 500 saved tabs. These features together allows for a very organized tab tree, with labeled branches that are saved when not in use. I recognize that bookmarks can be used this way as well, but this just feels more intuitive to me because its built right into the tab list.
However it's done, the important parts for me is the ability to save or hibernate tabs, close the window, open a new window, and still maintain the tab hierarchy.
Equally important is some way to have an entertainment branch, a work branch, and any other branches that are separate, but still usable at the same time. Having multiple windows in the same tree is the only way I can think of that this could work.
I know this is a weird overly complex system, and that it's probably best left to addons and extensions, but it would be very nice to have it integrated into the browser. At the very least, there are a lot of good ideas.
Lastly, keep everything optional. Many people will probably want the standard system. Many will also want the simpler Tree Style Tabs layout. but i think that if given the chance, many would prefer the Tabs Outliner system.
PS: My solution to the Tree Style vs the Group Style debate is have tabs that are grouped together act as if they were pinned together in into one supertab, just like they currently do. They would move as if they were one tab. If the grouped tabs have tabs nested below them, they would follow the group wherever it is moved, and when un-grouped, they would stick with their original parent tab. If a new tab is created from a tab inside a group, then I would have an option in the settings menu to choose weather it is nested under the current tab in the tree below the group, or goes into the group like normal. This way, The two systems could coexist smoothly. The people who want the neat, simple, and space saving tab groups would use them. The people who want the organization of tree style tabs would use it. The people who want a compact, good looking tree would use both.
PPS: There should be an option where, If you try to close a parent tab, you can close all of it's children as well, or shift all the children up one layer, or pick the top child tab to be the new parent. And, if the children tabs are hidden, there should ABSOLUTELY be a confirm close multiple tabs window.
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I am looking for tree tabs structure or colour groups for tabs in Vivaldi
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Nice to see this topic is getting some attention.
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Ultimately, tree tabbed browsing, the lack of better control over tab hibernation without having to use some asinine extension that doesn't even unload the tab and instead replaces it with some landing page, and the fact that it's really just Chromium with some shiny bits thrown on make me not want to use Vivaldi, and by all means I really want to.
Really, not all of that is even required. Add tree tabs, which you pretty much already have the basis for with tab groups, as well as a clearer distinction between Vivaldi and Chromium (better not-Chrome history page when?) and you'll surely have mine and countless others downloads.
While it would be nice to have more system customization (I miss about:config) it isn't a requirement if the rest of it is good enough to not require modification. -
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I have no experience with tree style tabs, but from what I read about it I get the idea it's rather like hierarchically organizing your bookmarks except you keep them open (and mostly hibernated probably) all the time.
As such I would not like it if such a feature would be other than optional - I prefer to close pages I only visit once in a while. This browser should not be about forcing one type of workflow on everyone.If I understand TST wrong, please enlighten me.
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I just registered to reply and vote for this issue. Almost.
I wanted to have "small pinned tabs", like TST has. I attached a screenshot, so you can see this.
I installed TST mainly for the small icon row on top which are my pinned tabs. Looks like this in FF:
Hope you like this as much as I do.
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@bmarwell - that's and interesting and useful-looking idea. Good space saver.
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@Ayespy yes, since monitors are not very high (as in height) today. A few years ago we had 1600x1280, but nowadays it's only 1920x1080 for pcs and 1440x1380 for mobile devices. 2.5k monitors and 4k monitors, as well as FullHD laptops are still not very common as of today.
Also, it is a very good indicator for pinned tabs without the need of apin icon.
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@bmarwell - I have a 1280x1024 hooked to a machine behind me right now...
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@bmarwell - OK, but with the proviso that I actually kind of hate tree-style tabs, and only like the idea of single-row pins at the top of vertical tabs.
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@Ayespy agreed, the idea of the single-row pins is more important to me as well.
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@Ayespy +1 - hover the group and see all contents, then straight to it. I can't see a better way to do it than that.
Also, I have tabs at the side and I don't want to be messed up by not being in the majority...
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Relevant:
Andrii Degeler said (in comments for the article Vivaldi is building โOpera as it should've beenโ | Ars Technica):
If they would even remotely consider Tree Style Tabs it would be a serious contender... but Vivaldi's Tab Stack implementation is less usable even than Opera 10's tab stacking from 8 years ago.
I asked Tomita about it after the interview. He said it's in their list of features to implement.
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@ben2talk - Pinned tabs should be stackable, anyway. In an early 1.03 version, they were. And a stack of tabs should be pinnable.
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@Ayespy said in Tree Style Tab:
@ben2talk - Pinned tabs should be stackable, anyway. In an early 1.03 version, they were. And a stack of tabs should be pinnable.
...and FYI [not Ayespy, he already knows this from prior posting of mine; https://vivaldi.net/en-US/forum/all/11512-pin-stacked-tabs#62375], the last V SS version for which it was still possible [& worked great, btw] was 1.0.233.3-1. Indeed, til only a few months ago, based on successful experimenting per that old post, i used to still have stacked tabs pinned, by clean-installing 1.0.233.3-1, organising all the tab-stacks that i wanted to be pinned [& then pinning them], then installing the latest SS over the top [it preserved all pre-existing pinned stacks, but lost the ability to pin any new stacks, without starting over again].
I eventually decided to stop it coz it was laborious having to maintain it, & also i began to worry about possible adverse implications of blending old & new code.
I miss that great feature, & hope we do get it back, sooner or later.
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How about an optional feature that changes the visualization of a tab stack to be tabs indented under the first tab of the stack? That should not require changes to the current logic of tab stacks, simply a change to how they are visualized.