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    • edwardp
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      edwardp Soprano Supporters Ambassador
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      The U.S. Department of Justice is considering a breakup of Google.

      DOJ indicates it’s considering Google breakup following monopoly ruling

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      • TravellinBob
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        @edwardp All very laudable, I'm sure - but I can't see it happening in my lifetime. I'm 71 btw.

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        • Pathduck
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          What's needed is more regulation and more taxation of big companies, to avoid the billionaire class accumulating even more insane amounts of wealth.

          A breakup wouldn't do much good, the idea that these new companies would somehow "compete on the free market" is just ridiculous.

          But the US public does not like regulations and taxation, even for the super-rich, because after all they've "worked hard for it". So politicians won't do it because that would have them labeled as "socialists"... 🤦♂

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          • Dr.Flay
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            What is needed is for the USA to abide by the laws it already put in place to control monopolies.

            While Google provides an all-in-one platform of infrastructure, services, products and advertising, it is breaking the laws introduced to stop the TV, media and news companies from doing everything so users are turned into "fish in a barrel".
            A TV company is not allowed to also be the advertising company and sell adverts to itself. It must use 3rd parties.

            The fly in the ointment is the advertising business. Cut that away and google has to compete on the same field as others.

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            • mathieulefrancois
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              mathieulefrancois Soprano Patron Ambassador @Dr.Flay
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              @Dr-Flay interesting... The problem is that the advertising business is where they make their money.

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              • Dr.Flay
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                @mathieulefrancois Indeed, while apparently the rest of us are led to believe that us showing adverts on our sites and services is a way we can make money.

                If we can make money from showing adverts from a 3rd party, so can Google.
                They don't need to also be the advert vendor if there truly is as much money in it as they say.

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                • ingolftopf
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                  Thank you @edwardp for your interesting contribution.

                  It is far more than overdue to massively limit Google.
                  Google should never have been allowed to achieve such an exorbitant monopoly position.

                  Google is probably just smiling at the actions of the European Union.

                  The US government can, if it wants to, really make a difference to Google.

                  However, like so many things these days, it depends on the outcome of the election.

                  If the Reds win, Google will be happy.

                  🙃

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                    Judges involved in three different anti-trust lawsuits faced by Google in the US have slammed the tech giant, accusing it of going to great lengths to manipulate and suppress evidence (internal communications) during the legal proceedings.

                    https://reclaimthenet.org/judges-google-evidence-hiding-antitrust

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                    • ingolftopf
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                      @Dr-Flay
                      I'm very curious to see how things will continue in the USA.

                      😊 😏

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                      • xuebee
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                        xuebee Patron
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                        What does this news mean for Vivaldi, and I guess the upstream Chromium project?


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                        • edwardp
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                          The Chromium Project is open-source, so I don't think this will affect them or any Chromium-based browser.

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