YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker
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@mib3berlin said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
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Hi, try to disable the Vivaldi ad blocker for YT, if you use it and uBlock it cant work.
Use Brave for a while and it will break too, this happen on all browsers.
Search the forum or the internet for youtube ad blocker and you find several threads about this issue.Disable the Vivaldi ad blocker.
You can disable it with the shield icon in the address bar for a page.Cheers, mib
Thanks! Didn't even know Vivaldi had built in ad blocker.
Put it on blocking trackers only, and now youtube work with ads with ublock disabled, and work without ads with ublock enabled (so far, when they started the crack down it worked on and off, until I switched to brave where it has worked for since, I'll go on testing).
Thank you so much!
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@edwardp Yes, it started happening to me on Vivaldi last week. First, I got the message that ad blockers are not allowed on YouTube, then, today, the warning that video streaming would be blocked after 3 videos if the ad blocker was not removed for YouTube.
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New: Youtube again tightens the blocking of adblockers:https://9to5google.com/2024/05/27/youtube-skipping-to-end-adblockers/
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Hi everybody,
so I received this message too, like many others here
Though, unlike OP, for me this warning is non-blocking, i.e. I still can close this warning and watch youtube as usual. However, I understand that the situation can change in the nearest future as YT keep going on its crusade against adblockers, and the fight is ongoing.
My question: does Vivaldi Dev Team have a future-proof strategy how to tackle this problem and any ongoing developments or ideas for improving its adblocker?
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Said:
My question: does Vivaldi Dev Team have a future-proof strategy how to tackle this problem and any ongoing developments or ideas for improving its adblocker?
They are dedicated to that. In the meantime use uBOL:
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh
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@astero, yes, I use the Vivaldi Blockr, it mostly skipps the ads in the Videos, but sometimes appears also this advice that adblocker ar not allowed, blablah. In this case I used a little script (4 lines) which i have installed as extension which redirect the Video as embedded in a new tab when I reload the Video (or clicking in an Video link).
https://openuserjs.org/scripts/Kraust/Youtube_Embed_Redirect
or alternatively this one
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/505094-youtube-to-youtube-no-cookie-embed-player
Download the script in a folder (don't delete it)
Open the extensionspage in Vivaldi in developer mode
Drag the script on the page to install it.You can use also an Userscript Manager like Tampermonkey and use the script there, but than Google can delete the script using the extension from the store (I know, I used also first an Userscript Manager, but all installed scripts disappear from one day to another)
I don`t not longer trust privacy or security extensions from the Chrome Store.
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@astero said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
Though, unlike OP, for me this warning is non-blocking, i.e. I still can close this warning and watch youtube as usual.
OK, I wasn't right. It appears they are gonna block me after the next 3 videos
Thanks guys for all your advices, I will try them.
@Catweazle said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
Vivaldi Blockr
So Vivaldi Blockr is a custom extension or what? I tried to search by that word, but it didn't bring any results.
If this is a Chrome extension and you are saying you don't trust Chrome extension anymore, I don't get it what you are talking about here.
Having read the help page about extensions, I still don't see how one can install non-Chrome extension in Vivaldi, there is no such way described on that page.@Catweazle said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
Open the extensionspage in Vivaldi in developer mode
Drag the script on the page to install it.drag'n'droping the script is an undocumented way of installation?
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@astero
Hi, the internal Vivaldi ad blocker can be enabled in Settings > Privacy.
When you installed Vivaldi you were asked if you wanted to activate it, it looks like you said no.
It is list based and need some fine tuning, the most information is already in this thread.
Some use also a script extension like ViolentMonkey in addition to the internal.Cheers, mib
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@astero, the Vivaldi blocker is the inbuild ad/trackerblocker in the browser, not an extension. You can activate it in the Privacy settings¹
Scripts and also extensions from other sources than the Chrome Store can also be installed in the way as I said before. The only drawback is that in this case they point to the downloaded files in your HD and not to their homepage or the store, that means they are not updated automatically, if needed you must look by yourself and download these again if updates are available. On the other hand, the advantage is that Google don't have access to these.¹
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I'm probably the last to notice this, but you can use the PIP viewer to forward through the ads.
I stay logged out and added a few ABP lists to the blocking sources, which is enough for me even though they sometimes fail. When that happens, it's click PIP and skip time.
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@mib2berlin said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
When you installed Vivaldi you were asked if you wanted to activate it, it looks like you said no.
OK, this is what I have in Privacy
@Catweazle said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
You can activate it in the Privacy settings¹
And these are the sources enabled in Gestionar fuentes/Manage sources:
4 sources in total. You are guys saying I should enable more sources to overcome this error, is this right did I get your idea?
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@astero At this point in time for YouTube I'm using uBlock Origin with Vivaldi's built-in ad blocker set to No Blocking. This has reliably blocked YT ads since the YT notice started appearing.
However, I'm aware that my solution won't last forever. Earlier today I tried uBlock Origin Lite in Chrome as an experiment to see what would happen. It either produced a spinning circle for several seconds before the video started or would fail to block the ad. Even increasing the setting to advanced filtering failed.
I then tried AdGuard and that worked, However, I only tested it on a couple of videos, so that's hardly much of a test.
At this point I will stick with uBlock Origin until it's finally zapped and then see what the best alternatives are at that time.
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The following assertion by a member of the uBO team implies, in my opinion, that Adguard would be a better long-term option than uBOL:
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@barbudo2005, if uBOL has reachd the limits of Mv3, AdGuard Mv3 can'gt be much better. If it improve more than the allowed limits of Mv3, it will fast disappear from the Store if Google see it.
That is the problem which I see with extensions from the Chrome Store, and why I will not depend of these in vital functions. -
@Catweazle said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
@barbudo2005, if uBOL has reachd the limits of Mv3, AdGuard Mv3 can'gt be much better. If it improve more than the allowed limits of Mv3, it will fast disappear from the Store if Google see it.
That is the problem which I see with extensions from the Chrome Store, and why I will not depend of these in vital functions.Gorhill is 100% correct. As always:) There is no room for further enhancements in UBOL.
Custom filtering, element picker etc can't be added in UBOL.
This will make UBOL having to make "hacks" to open the service worker and the result will be the same like Adguard MV3, it could take in some scenarios filtering to be delayed for some seconds before filters get applied.
What he could do... create an additional addon with the needed workarounds that Adguard does and have it only for custom filters and quick fixes that could be applied dynamically too by updating the quick fix filter.
In this companion addon he could add an element picker too.
The issue with that, we would be asking from the guy way too much. Basically maintaining 3 extensions.
It is not his reponsibility to support browsers that he is not even using. It is just too much to ask.
Anyway it is Vivaldi's responsibility to offer something better than the current adblocker it has.
Right now it is basically on par with Adblock Plus.
We are in 2024, today ABP is old news, the de-facto adblock standard is UBO.
They have 7 months left for this. The clock is ticking. -
@electryon, as workarround complementing the Vivaldi Blocker I use an Element Picker script (WebEraser) as extension. Works pretty well. As said, I don't not longer trust the Chrome Store in these things.
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@Catweazle I am using Vivaldi's built in Adblocker for custom filtering.
I just create my own filter list and I make sure it is ABP compatible.
Vivaldi's can even read local filter lists, you don't have to upload your custom list.
My issue is all the workrounds I have to make for making that list compatible with ABP syntax:)
There is no support even for 3rd party frame/script blocking rules in the native adblocker.
There is no middle ground on this or workarounds on this, Vivaldi has to support the current standards in adblocking.
Today an adblocker that is on par with ABP is just not enough.
We can't even remove that annoying ad email in Outlook that Microsoft adds.
Because it needs scriptlets to be removed.
Vivaldi's target group is power users, Chrome targets casual users.
UBOL or Adguard MV3 is enough for casual users.
If Vivaldi after June offers just a ABP compatible adblocker, they will be playing with fire...
I don't think many power users will tolerate to use for long time a built in ABP no matter how much they love Vivaldi.
Eventually they will just look for something else, Brave if they need chromium no matter what, or Firefox, Zen, Floorp etc. -
@electryon, the restrictions from Google are valid for all Chromium Browsers which use the Chrome Store, also Brave.
Only the inbuild features can surround the control from Google. A script loaded from a local file is out of the control from Google, which only can delete extensions from the store as it has done since years (a lot of extensions already in the Store converted in 404 pages).
If Adblocker from the store surpass the Google rules, they will be deleted and disappear from the store and from the browser.
I don't use Outlook nor any other services and apps from M$, except the strict necessarly ones, in a gutted to 1 GB and fast Windows 10, no ads or nags from there since years.
In Windows you can use Portmaster, to control and block all traffic which are not needed or desirable.
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@electryon @Catweazle @barbudo2005 @wintercoast
ok, guys, this was a very interesting discussion, to which I can only add my 2 cents.@barbudo2005 said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
that Adguard would be a better long-term option than uBOL
for those folks like you worrying about privacy swapping UBO to AdGuard is ridiculous, as AdGuard is backed by Russians, developed by Russians and hosted by Russians, so no trust in them at all. Building privacy based on AdGuard is like fighting fire with gasoline.
@astero said in YouTube Blocking Video for Browser with Ad Blocker:
4 sources in total. You are guys saying I should enable more sources to overcome this error, is this right did I get your idea?
so switching back to my questions about managing blocking sources and so on, this did nothing, I still see this warning message.
I am getting from your discussion that now in Vivaldi there is no working built-in adblocker, and If I don't want to install custom extension, the only solution is to whitelist YT, yeah?
