V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?
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@magilex said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
New for this version is this behaviour recovered itself and I did not have to restart the browser yet, so it looks like something has improved, but not fully.
Will see how this progresses over the next few days.
I was resigned to having to restart daily before, along with having to kill the processes in task manager that do not close off on closing the application.
Yes, I also thought that Viv 6.5 and 6.6 felt more snappy than Viv 6.4, but the problem will eventually pop up. And at first I was the only one who reported the hanging in memory problem, now there are at least 5+ people who have reported it. So it's clearly related to the performance problems. It just feels like Vivaldi gets overwhelmed and stressed after a while, CPU usage also goes up. I guess this might be caused by some memory leak, like someone else mentioned, but I'm not an expert when it comes to this.
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I'd forgotten that there'd been previous discussions w/r/t what hardware folks were on. So, for the record, I'm on a laptop (Thinkpad P16s, specifically) that has an AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U, using the built-in Radeon 680M graphics. So, no NVidia to blame either, alas.
I also own a 2009 Mac Pro, and it occasionally shows signs of this slowdown, but not as consistently. I attribute that more to the fact that I don't use the browser on it as often and as heavily, though.
I'm planning, when next the problem recurs, to attempt an experiment in which I concurrently open up a second mostly-empty profile, close the affected profile, and then reopen it, and see how Vivaldi reacts. Mostly because I have a lot of PWAs and I get tired of having to restart them as well.
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Continued on for another day.
It was usable, but from time to time locked up, with tabbing being unresponsive, menus not appearing etc. As stated before, this now recovers on this version, but is still not as snappy as after a restart.
Have now downloaded another update, so have to restart the browser anyway. Will report back on how this goes. -
@Viqsi said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
I'm planning, when next the problem recurs, to attempt an experiment in which I concurrently open up a second mostly-empty profile, close the affected profile, and then reopen it, and see how Vivaldi reacts. Mostly because I have a lot of PWAs and I get tired of having to restart them as well.
Well, it didn't prevent me from having to restart the PWAs, but it worked all the same to clear up the slowdown. And the restart was somewhat faster. So there's that.
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I still have these issues.
I originally thought that maybe it was due to my large history (300+ MB file), but I finally bit the bullet and backed it up to start with a new empty history, but it's the exact same.
I still get the slowdowns after an hour/a few hours, depending on how much I surfed the internet/how many tab I opened or closed. -
By the way, has there been any acknowledgement of this problem by the Vivaldi team?
I've sometimes seen Vivaldi team members (@pafflick, @RuarΓ, @BenziJunior) comment on/acknowledge other problems, but never this problem (which is arguably the biggest one in Vivaldi right now). But maybe I've just missed their comments. -
@Viqsi
Hi, do you had any slowdown and/or process leftovers without using PWA's?
I still run my test with 200 running tabs and open and close 1000 tabs a day for the second day, no slowdown here.
But I never use PWA's.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
@Viqsi
Hi, do you had any slowdown and/or process leftovers without using PWA's?Yep. That was one of the very first things I tried many a moon ago.
I wonder if it'd be worthwhile to compare other settings. Does Vivaldi have a handy way of exporting current settings in a human-readable format? Could help.
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@Viqsi
Argh, my hopes are destroyed.
Export settings are one of the most voted feature requests but no, not possible.
It is all stored in the file "Preferences" but not only the settings, custom shortcuts, menu customisation and so forth.
But I guess it is not possible to change settings and get these results.
I test many many things and reset my profiles often, it take me 5 minutes to get a working Vivaldi with sync.
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@Viqsi No, but you can read the file in text form, tree form, etc. with a simple JSON editor. They are available for free on the web.
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Yeesh. Redacting the personal info in there would be a chore and a half. I guess I'll keep an eye out for other possibilities.
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@vivaldibecameSLOW said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
By the way, has there been any acknowledgement of this problem by the Vivaldi team?
I've sometimes seen Vivaldi team members (@pafflick, @RuarΓ, @BenziJunior) comment on/acknowledge other problems, but never this problem (which is arguably the biggest one in Vivaldi right now). But maybe I've just missed their comments.No, this is the frustrating part. But I believe we need to make a new bugreport. I made one weeks ago, but it's probably closed, I never heard back. Back then I didn't give any extensive info to the developers though, because a lot wasn't clear back then. But it would make a lot of sense to link to this and the older thread if developers need more info.
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@Viqsi said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
I'd forgotten that there'd been previous discussions w/r/t what hardware folks were on. So, for the record, I'm on a laptop (Thinkpad P16s, specifically) that has an AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U, using the built-in Radeon 680M graphics. So, no NVidia to blame either, alas.
I'm planning, when next the problem recurs, to attempt an experiment in which I concurrently open up a second mostly-empty profile, close the affected profile, and then reopen it, and see how Vivaldi reacts. Mostly because I have a lot of PWAs and I get tired of having to restart them as well.
Yes, that's the weird thing, it doesn't seem to be related to specific hardware.
And to clarify, I'm not using any PWAs, I didn't even know this was a thing, until I recently saw it in Edge, which offered me to install such a PWA, but I declined. So this doesn't play a role. Also, weeks ago I completely reinstalled Windows and Vivaldi, so it also happens on a clean profile. Of course I did import my rather large bookmarks file and I use 8 extensions. Third party security tools don't seem to play any role.
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As mentioned in my previous post I got the latest update and restarted. Have left the browser running since then.
Performance has degraded over, but does recover enough to be usable if you wait and does not completely grind to a halt. This is another improvement over the last version, so something is getting better, but not fully fixed, as it does not return to the "snappy" state you get after restarting the browser. -
@RasheedHolland said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
Yes, that's the weird thing, it doesn't seem to be related to specific hardware.
And to clarify, I'm not using any PWAs, I didn't even know this was a thing, until I recently saw it in Edge, which offered me to install such a PWA, but I declined. So this doesn't play a role. Also, weeks ago I completely reinstalled Windows and Vivaldi, so it also happens on a clean profile. Of course I did import my rather large bookmarks file and I use 8 extensions. Third party security tools don't seem to play any role.
Perchance, are you using Vivaldi Sync for anything? I've been able to reproduce the issue with no extensions and no bookmarks. (I've been chronicling some of the things I've been trying at https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/89581/interface-stop-responding-after-closing-a-tab-when-using-tab-groups/ as well - mostly managing to eliminate possibilities and unfortunately mystify @mib2berlin). I do use Sync, though, and so I wonder if perhaps it's Something In The Profile that's getting synced.
And if it's not that, the only other possibilities I can think of are "some combination of preferences" (in which case I'd be interested in comparing notes) or something even more obscure and unknowable.
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I've noticed that it seems to be unloading older tabs, so that may explain the improved performance, but I am back to the daily restart for now, as it is still slowing too much over time.
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@Viqsi I've never used Sync and I have these performance problems.
@BenziJunior please tell us, is the Vivaldi team aware of this problem? It would be great to know if this is something you are able to re-create
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@vivaldibecameSLOW I'm less wondering if Sync is the cause and more interested if something that gets synchronized is responsible. So whether or not one uses Sync and gets these issues is of interest only if you've also reproduced the issue with an otherwise completely new clean profile.
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@RasheedHolland said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
Of course I did import my rather large bookmarks file and I use 8 extensions. Third party security tools don't seem to play any role.
Have you tried disabling your extensions?
@vivaldibecameSLOW said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
@BenziJunior please tell us, is the Vivaldi team aware of this problem? It would be great to know if this is something you are able to re-create
As a member of the team, I am aware but not been able to reproduce the issue.
Haven't had time to go through the original thread as I'm working on other performance related tasks, but will try to investigate further once I have more time. -
@BenziJunior said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
@RasheedHolland said in V 6.6 | Slow Performance Since Upgrade?:
Of course I did import my rather large bookmarks file and I use 8 extensions. Third party security tools don't seem to play any role.
Have you tried disabling your extensions?
I don't believe that poster has, but I have. It took a little longer for the symptoms to recur, but they recurred all the same. I've also gotten it with a "new profile", although whether or not it was "clean" is debatable because one of the first things I did with it is sign back into Vivaldi Sync. (I did turn off all of the extensions therein for testing purposes, though.)
Hope this helps.