What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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The absence of all the right click features on Opera 12.
The clumsy implementation of bookmarks/download panels
Slow load times for start up (really could make a cup of tea) and pages
Inability to tweak javascript options
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Browser Sync
I'd make Vivaldi my mainstay browser if I could just get everything to sync between all my machines. Copying entire directory structures from %appdata% locations is pretty weak and unwelcome as a resolution. The idea of having to setup my speed dial more than once is enough to keep me from ever using it as anything than a novelty
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I have been using Vivaldi as my main browser at work for a long time, but I can't see myself switching to it at home. Reasons:
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The UI feels sluggish. It seems that every click or every keyboard shortcut anywhere takes a little longer than it should. This is especially noticeable with Speed Dial. I am pretty certain this is related to the HTML-based UI, because neither Chrome nor the new Opera have this feel. A part of this problem is the fact that I can't turn off smooth scrolling: regardless of what my settings are, when I press Page Down, I want the page to snap instantly to a new position, not to spend half a second scrolling there.
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Awful menus. I like to use classical menu, and I hate how Vivaldi's menus work. I want the standard system behavior for that particular OS I am using, not some unified nonsense. After opening a menu, why can't I simply move the mouse over another menu (or press Right) to move to it, why do I have to click on it? Btw., this applies to all of the system integration - if I activate "Use native Window", why don't I see the title of the page in the window's title bar, as is common with all other applications?
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Speaking of menus, I need a Bookmarks menu.
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Missing useful UI stuff from the old Opera, such as CTRL+click on an image to save it, editable Translation links in context menus, etc.
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No RSS.
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What's stopping me from using it at all is the inability to set custom colors for all websites. Most websites use a default white, or other very bright color, for their background. I cannot look at that without severe head and eye-aches. Without the ability to set my own colors in the options, a web browser is useless to me, and I cannot find any settings in the options for this.
Add it, and this could easily become my new browser.
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Panel I don't like how this is a stick able item. I wish it had an option where it would open as a temporary menu or something. Or overlay as to not mess with the site I am on.
Have you tried turning the panel edge toggle on (like in old Opera)? Options… Panels...
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I still use Firefox because none of the blink-based browsers (Chromium, Opera, or Vivaldi) have customizable mouse gestures.
This is particularly annoying with Opera and Vivaldi, because Opera invented them, and Vivaldi is supposed to be for people that don't like the new direction Opera is taking!
(And no, none of the chrome extensions are any good. They need to always work. And most of them are malware/adware to boot.)
I think that "maybe" it's about time to be happy for you.
Stay tunedFinally! Looking forward to it!
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It's in the newest snapshot that was just released.
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Just checked it out– the mouse gestures customization works BEAUTIFULLY.
However, rocker gestures still cannot be customized-- hopefully that is coming next.
Also I find "previous tab" and "next tab" highly confusing. What I want is "left tab" and "right tab", which I activate by gesturing left or right.
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Also I find "previous tab" and "next tab" highly confusing. What I want is "left tab" and "right tab", which I activate by gesturing left or right.
Try setting your tab cycling options to "Cycle in Tab Order," rather than "Cycle in Recently Used Order."
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Also I find "previous tab" and "next tab" highly confusing. What I want is "left tab" and "right tab", which I activate by gesturing left or right.
Try setting your tab cycling options to "Cycle in Tab Order," rather than "Cycle in Recently Used Order."
Good idea, but that doesn't change the mouse gesture action's behavior.
Also I do prefer recently used order for CTRL-TAB. Although I use that much, much, less than the mouse gesture, so I would give it up if it worked.
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The absolute gamebreaker for not be able to use Vivaldi as Opera replacement is it's aggressive caching.
It makes the browser completely unusable. I have have tabs pinned that often change. But when I restart the browser and lazy load this tab (I like the lazy loading, only feature I missed from 12.x Opera), it only shows me a very outdated cached version and do not build up the websocket connections until I hit F5.
The website in question is stack overflow. I monitor certain tags there for new questions to react on, but every time I select the tab I get very old version and I have to remember to click F5 every time. And the auto notification of new questions wont work since websocket is not connected.
Fix that immediately, it breaks the whole browser in an age of fast updating websites.
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Additionally to that, the websocket connections stop working at some point, even after a refresh. This makes it even less usable as now I don't even know if there have been new questions on Stack Overflow without hitting F5.
How the hell could you release such a buggy and broken browser? WebSockets are the most important feature used on many websites these days (i.e. Azure Portal), without it this websites become unusable in Vivaldi
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- The UI feels sluggish. It seems that every click or every keyboard shortcut anywhere takes a little longer than it should. This is especially noticeable with Speed Dial. I am pretty certain this is related to the HTML-based UI, because neither Chrome nor the new Opera have this feel.
Vivaldi ist currently the slowest browser in existence. Even Mozilla in early alpha wasn't that bad.
- Awful menus. I like to use classical menu, and I hate how Vivaldi's menus work. I want the standard system behavior for that particular OS I am using, not some unified nonsense. After opening a menu, why can't I simply move the mouse over another menu (or press Right) to move to it, why do I have to click on it?
Because there is no MouseOver-Javascript-Event implemented. But you are right: Native window borders with native OS menus should be there. Vivaldi uses the native menubar on OSX. So someone made an effort to implement it for a niche platform. Why can't we have a native menubar on Windows?
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This is a native menubar.
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Also I find "previous tab" and "next tab" highly confusing. What I want is "left tab" and "right tab", which I activate by gesturing left or right.
After updating at home, I re-configured mouse gestures and next/previous tab worked exactly like right/left tab did in Opera way back when! Turns out there are two sets of next/previous tab actions– the one with (Recent) after the action name works in recently activated order, the one without simply focuses the left or right tab of the current. Which is what I want!
Now all I need is for Vivaldi to allow customizing rocker gestures, so I can assign flipback to Close Tab and flipforward to Re-open Closed Tab and I will have recreated by Opera (and now Firefox) configuration in its entirety... and then... I may switch!
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Additionally to that, the websocket connections stop working at some point, even after a refresh. This makes it even less usable as now I don't even know if there have been new questions on Stack Overflow without hitting F5.
How the hell could you release such a buggy and broken browser? WebSockets are the most important feature used on many websites these days (i.e. Azure Portal), without it this websites become unusable in Vivaldi
Wow! Overreact much…!?
I've had hardly any bugs in the year+ I've been using Vivaldi and it's far far far from "broken". Just because your pet bug annoys you doesn't mean anyone else even notices it.
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Drag tab to new window
Change Tab Focus with hover (Tab Mix Plus functionality)
Overall sluggishness vs Firefox, Chrome
Add all bookmarks to tab bar at once (in it's own folder)
Web Mail client -
Still using Opera 12 in cases I need to repeat CUSTOM SEARCH operation on selected text. Please add custom search menu item on right click, and move it to the top (and include the icon) - like in old Opera.
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Remember a guy named Tamil?.
Tamil's Blog is available on the WayBack Machine in case anyone wants some tips on using Opera 12.17 or earlier.
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It's quite slow to load web sites. But then again Chrome is quite slow too, not to mention Firefox. My primary browser is still Opera classic 12.16, still the fastest!!
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TBH I have not used Vivaldi that much yet and I'm sure I will come up with a much larger list once I do, but a key reason for that is because of some showstoppers.
After being spoiled with Opera Classic and having to find an alternative once Opera no longer was practical to use, I have slowly acclimatized to adding dozens of extensions to Mozilla-based browsers to get back my "base functionality", and also add some things. (My current default is PaleMoon but I use a half-dozen browsers fairly regularly)
I have 2 extensions which have become "primary baseline functionality" on those platforms: NoScript, and Self-Destructing Cookies. Neither of these exist for Chrome/Chromium/Opera/Vivaldi.
And I have not been able to find anything remotely comparable to them, and I've tried quite a few of them. (It certainly doesn't help that Google manages the Chrome store like they manage Android Market/Google Play: it's basically a free-for-all, mostly managed by "robot", not humans, so there is tons of junk there and it is poorly organized, poorly documented.)
I don't hold any illusion that Vivaldi will build-in any of that functionality, but if I could find a decent and working extension, it would go a long way towards getting me to use it more often.
