Vivaldi eating up memory and heating up computer.
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So, any updates on this?
I have never seen chrome use 2 GB RAM for just 40 tabs out of which 15 are "suspended" by "The great suspender" extension.
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@xyzzy Any updates on this????
I had vivaldi open for about 4-5 days and when I looked at the RAM usage, it showed 10GB which is huge. Eventually had to close vivaldi.I can't use vivaldi if I have to close my browser every 3-4 days. 4.2 is getting released but still no mention of this issue. Chrome is so stable and well thought out in these things
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@risingstark said
I can't use vivaldi if I have to close my browser every 3-4 days.
I was wondering why that is. This is not a rhetorical question. I'm just honestly wondering, because I quit Vivaldi at the end of each day. When I launch it next day, the state of the previous day is restored.
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Vivaldi 4.2 is out
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I have this issue with Vivaldi on my MacBook, Chrome is fine so it can't be the Blink engine that's producing the CPU spiking and heating.
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@risingstark said in Vivaldi eating up memory and heating up computer.:
@xyzzy Any updates on this????
I do not have any specific updates. Users have reported bugs pertaining to memory leaks, with good, reliable steps-to-reproduce, and they get fixed by the Vivaldi team.
I am currently using Windows as my primary system, so I am not actively testing on macOS at the moment, but none of the other active internal Mac testers have been raising any alarms about extreme memory usage... at least not that I am aware of. However, internal testers also update to new builds every day or so and relaunch Vivaldi on a regular basis, so we don't tend to actively run Vivaldi for days at a time without restarting.
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FYI, there is a bug, VB-48892 (When browser is running for a long time, opening of new tab becomes slow), that is currently still open. It's not specific to a platform so I will add a link to this thread. Hopefully, that will get some of the devs to revisit this issue.
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@davaldi Same here - monitoring the CPU temps and RAM - it spikes up the CPU frequency near full max loading. Temps shoot up. Even disabling all tabs and plug-ins the condition persists. I'm running OSX 10.15.3 on a 2014.5 MBP. Its' always been an issue no matter of what I do.
I've tried disabling and enabling the GPU hardware throttling to trying flag settings to no avail. I can't watch YouTube videos - it will run too hot for my liking and the fans come on high.
I've even reset Mac's power management system to no avail.
I also redid the CPU and overhauled the thermal paste down to the CCA level.
Safari runs fine- no overheating issues on You Tube videos.
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@chrismckenna That's not really a fair comparison. Safari is a native macOS application that was purpose-built to run on a Mac, and YouTube also tries to provide it with videos that can be decoded in hardware.
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Neither Safari or Firefox makes my M1 MacBook Air run hot. Only Vivaldi.
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Safari still has the WebKit rendering engine AFAIK. Other WebKit based browsers don't heat up my Mac. Even Chrome's Blink engine doesn't. I believe Blink was a fork of WebKit. This is definitely a Vivaldi problem.
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@davaldi When playing a video on YouTube, "right-click" on it and select "Stats for nerds". With Safari, you will probably see that you get an H.264/AVC-encoded video; with Vivaldi, it will be VP9-encoded, and you should see the same for Chrome. Safari can decode that video in hardware whereas Vivaldi uses a software decoder. However, Vivaldi should not perform any worse than Chrome when tested with the same tabs open and the same workload... and if it does, then I would consider that a bug and would report the problem to Vivaldi.
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@xyzzy said in Vivaldi eating up memory and heating up computer.:
@davaldi When playing a video on YouTube, "right-click" on it and select "Stats for nerds". With Safari, you will probably see that you get an H.264/AVC-encoded video; with Vivaldi, it will be VP9-encoded, and you should see the same for Chrome. Safari can decode that video in hardware whereas Vivaldi uses a software decoder. However, Vivaldi should not perform any worse than Chrome when tested with the same tabs open and the same workload... and if it does, then I would consider that a bug and would report the problem to Vivaldi.
I think it's already been reported as a bug by quite a few people. I'm not expecting a fix in the immediate or even distant future. I have a new MacBook Air. I didn't download Vivaldi when I first bought it but waited a bit as I was familiarising myself with the new laptop. Eventually I downloaded Vivaldi and proceeded to customise it and set it up as I like. M1 MBA's have no internal fan. I had never known it to heat up while surfing with a couple of tabs open and running an embedded video at the same time. Until I used Vivaldi. I was quite shocked by this. I've since tried the same thing in Chrome and Firefox. Chrome can have CPU spiking but only Vivaldi physically heats the laptop.
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@xyzzy How's about Brave then? Is that a fair comparison? Brave doesn't exhibit the high CPU overloading. The temperature stays around 65-degrees to 70-75 degrees for higher resolution and larger picture mode. Fans don't come on and the CPU isn't being maxed out at the upper limit frequency coupled with higher power consumption.
What would be nice is if we could get off the chrome-based browsers and develop a platform that was perhaps, more dedicated for OSX / MacOS so that it would run more efficient (if that's the problem with chrome).
I'm not planning on moving away from Vivaldi as it's me fave hands down but clearly something is up - plugs disabled or outright removed - few tabs open (one being YouTube) it loads up.
Hopefully, someone on the coding side will take a look into it and see if they find anything.
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FYI, I just did a search for "mac cpu" and "mac youtube" in the bug tracker but not very many results turned up.
One bug, VB-78550, reported by a MacBook Air user got closed as "Invalid" since the hardware is several years old, and apparently could not be reproduced.
Another, VB-79094, complaining about high CPU when watching a 4K YouTube video on an M1 Mac got closed as, "Cannot reproduce", and it looked like that tester actually tried hard to reproduce the issue.
Without a bunch of Confirmed bugs sitting there unfixed, I don't have any ammunition or justification to escalate issues internally or raise the priority of those bugs.
I did find one open, confirmed bug, that reported frame drops on Youtube, and I can try to use that bug to raise awareness of the issues that are being reported here.
The only other thing that I can suggest is that you all report bugs for your high CPU issues, post the VB-# and steps to reproduce here, and then you all can test and confirm whether or not you can reproduce using those steps as well. If internal testers cannot reproduce but you all can, we will still need to figure out why.
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I would like to post an update to what I believe may have resolved my particular case involving overheating and high CPU loading.
I am not 100% positive as it's only been a few hours but, with the same tab sessions open, same settings, same YouTube video playing, the temps were reduced to 58-62 degrees with low power consumption and ~ 2.0 nominal average CPU loading with 2.5 peaks.
I believe root cause in my case was two plug ins.
- AdGuard
- DuckDuckGo Essentials
When I removed AdGuard - bulk of the loading dropped.
When removing DDG - slightly dropping temperatures and CPU loading even further to the above mentioned figures.I'm on a MBP mid 2014 Retina 15 running OSX 10.15.3 FWIW
Again, it's only been 3-hours of testing but, there's definitely a drastic difference with regards to loading.
I've also got one mod to a flag for rendering that's built-in as an option under Vivaldi along with enabling the GPU hardware acceleration. So far, no issues throttling up.
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I've noticed my laptop gets much hotter than my other go-to browser(s). Why? Vivaldi runs about 15 F hotter than other browsers and the other browsers have multiple tabs open.
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Make sure your macOS version is updated, same with Vivaldi.
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