Google download links tries to open an app instead of saving

danm

Hi,

I'm trying to download a MIB from Cisco for a network switch. When I click on the download link in the tool at https://cfnng.cisco.com/mibs I get a dialog box that it wants to open "Pick an app" and won't let me save. It appears the link is going to ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my

Is there a way to force it to save instead of opening it in another program?

Thanks.

Pathduck

@danm Support for the FTP protocol has been deprecated in Chromium-based browsers (and also Firefox I believe), since some time back.

That's why it needs to ask for what program to open FTP URLs with.

I believe the flag for enabling FTP is also removed in Vivaldi 4.1 (Chromium 92), it's still available in Vivaldi 4.0 Stable though, but will be gone soon.
vivaldi://flags/#enable-ftp

Personally I believe this is a shitty decision as FTP is still widely used around the world. This is Silicon Valley Tech-bro arrogance at its worst.

On the other hand, a big company such as Cisco should be very much aware of this, and should at the very least give an alternate HTTP download.

Best advice I can give is to use a separate program for downloading FTP links. I would recommend aria2 or wget.

> aria2c.exe ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my

07/03 09:04:11 [NOTICE] Downloading 1 item(s)
[#7b7024 0B/103KiB(0%) CN:1 DL:0B]
07/03 09:04:14 [NOTICE] Download complete: g:\download/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my

Download Results:
gid   |stat|avg speed  |path/URI
======+====+===========+======================================================= 7b7024|OK  |   122KiB/s|g:\download/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my

Status Legend:
(OK):download completed.

> wget ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my
--2021-07-03 09:04:41--  ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my
           => ‘CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my’
Resolving ftp.cisco.com (ftp.cisco.com)... 72.163.7.54, 2001:420:1201:9::a
Connecting to ftp.cisco.com (ftp.cisco.com)|72.163.7.54|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.    ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/mibs/v2 ... done.
==> SIZE CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my ... 106300
==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my ... done.
Length: 106300 (104K) (unauthoritative)

CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.m 100%[===================>] 103.81K   267KB/s    in 0.4s

2021-07-03 09:04:44 (267 KB/s) - ‘CISCO-PROCESS-MIB.my’ saved [106300]

danm

Thanks, pathduck. That's really strange to drop FTP since there's still a lot of content stored on FTP. On a network switch I can copy from FTP but not from HTTPS, so I can see why Cisco still links there. I keep an old copy of SeaMonkey around for other broken pages, so I guess I'll have to use that. It'd be nice if there were a compatible extension to handle FTP (such as Overbite for gopher URLs), but nothing currently in the extensions download.

Pathduck

@danm I know, it's very frustrating, apparently "no one" uses FTP any more, because it's "insecure". Completely missing the point that there is no point for anonymous FTP to be "secure", it's just a protocol for downloading a file. In fact, for those so concerned with privacy I would say that HTTP/S sends a whole lot more information (IP, OS, browser + heaps of other headers) to the server than a simple FTP session (basically just your IP).

Vivaldi is supposed to be a browser for relatively technical people (even though the company itself says otherwise - understandably), but they still blindly follow what the other main browsers do, primarily Chrome of course. I understand them of course, they are forced to follow whatever direction the Chromium base code takes, they're a small company and can't really afford the time to implement this stuff on their own. I just wish they'd dare to go against the current.

Currently I use WinSCP associated with the FTP protocol in Windows. If I click a FTP link WinSCP opens and either downloads the file or lets me browse the directories.