trouble with facebook
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I use vivaldi 4.0.2312.27 on win7, and have suddenly, since updating, the following problem:
when typing the facebook address (or using a link of it) the browser starts to reload each 0,5 sec the facebook login page, and doesn't allow me to type the credentials. Even if I use a pw-manager, it does not work. Even if I disable all plugins and set vivaldi on "accept all trackers" it still does not work.
In some cases, facebook shows a window saying "do you accept cookies from FB?", and even if I click on "yes", the window keeps appearing, as the FB page continues to reload infinitely, bringing back the same question.
What could it be? What should I do?(not that I am not thankful to Vivaldi that it stops me visiting that stupid place, where people loose time with unnecessary chat!
)if I set the "block trackers (default)" in vivaldi, the browser address bar jumps to this curious link below, instead of "www.facebook.com/login" :
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@horia , Extensions don't necessarily stop working when you turn them off or if you use a private window. The first thing I would try is to do it in a visitor profile.
You can also try it after clearing the Facebook cache and serviceworkers.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle
thank you! however, using a guest profile, as you recommended, did not change anything. facebook behaves the same as previously described... -
@horia , unfortunatly I can't reproduce it, since I don't have an FB account and I don't plan to do it either. Let's see if any of the others here have an account and have an idea to what this problem may be due to.
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@horia Unfortunately, cannot reproduce that on any of my machines. Facebook is normal on all instances of Vivaldi here.
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Currently using 4.1.2339.3 (vanilla - no extensions added) on Win10 in Cyprus (EU) with session cookies only but have been seeing this same behaviour for a few days. Unchecking 'Remove cookie warnings' sources has no effect and, at wider scope, disabling Ad and/or Tracker blocking makes no difference.
I have many bookmarks for FB pages but no FB account and used to be able to read pages with just the constant annoyance of having to clear repeated invitations to 'see more' by logging in. However, it does NOT seem to be a specifically Vivaldi issue.
I've just tried facebook homepage in portable (vanilla) versions of Opera, Chrome and Firefox and see the same unavoidable 'looping' behaviour with this message. Using Opera 12.18 gave an FB message that they had detected an unsupported browser so had redirected me to a simpler version of their login. No looping cookie-consent message but, of course, I have no account so couldn't test whether a login would work. I try to block geolocation but all FB messages default to Greek (consistent with my ISP's location) rather than my en-gb setting.
I've now tried on Win7 with a VPN tunnel to UK. Vivaldi 3.8.2259.42 sees no looping problem with that cookie message but insists on a login to continue regardless of whether I was trying for homepage or a bookmarked FB page. Same for Firefox as well as Chrome using VPN to UK.
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@society Like many other asocial media sites, Facebook is a walled garden/prison/kz-lager/asylum. And they're making it harder and harder to inspect the condition of the inmates. If you have friends on the inside, wave goodbye, you will never see them again...
But I don't think this is the same issue as the OP, as they said they have user credentials there. And since you see the same issue in all browsers, this is clearly intentional from FB's side.
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@pathduck Not sure that credentials makes a difference. The looping cookie-message is my focus and is a shared issue that arises before login credentials can be entered.
I grant you that the now-mandatory login gateway seems consistent in the cases I've tried but the looping cookie-warning is presented before the login details can be entered. That looping panel always appears if I use a 'native' connection from my EU country but, interestingly, not if I use a VPN emerging in UK. I'd need to find time for more tests before I could say whether the country makes the difference but it's the only difference I've noticed so far in triggering that cookie-warning.
BTW, I have no social contact via FB but FB market penetration is extreme here. Many businesses and even local authorities don't (in some cases, no longer) have websites but seem to believe that an over-busy FB page is all the digital presence they need
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@horia I'm missing something in my testing and am getting seemingly inconsistent results. Can you identify when that cookie-warning panel loops and when you can dismiss it by clicking 'accept all'?
That 'looping' cookie-warning panel seems to append another 'next%' login-page parameter to the URL each time it cycles. I don't see the panel at all if I VPN to UK or US but just get taken straight to the login page. I see the panel just once if I VPN to France and it disappears if I accept all but it appears and keeps looping if I VPN to Germany or use my 'native' ISP connection in Cyprus.
The really bizarre result is that what I called 'the now-mandatory login gateway' isn't necessarily mandatory! if I VPN to Cyprus then I don't see the cookie-message panel and I don't see the login page - I'm taken directly to my target FB page (just as used to happen several days ago)!
This is all the same in V and in Fx with session-only cookies and so on, a list of FB URLs to provide variety and re-starting between each test. I'm giving up for the time being but all observations and ideas welcome.
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@society
thank you for your replies and interesting insights in your experience with facebook!I tried to login again today, and, because you mentioned VPN, I thought about mine too. I am also using a VPN called Proton (from Switzerland).
I discovered that, by being logged into the VPN, with a VPN IP address from the same country I'm in (Austria), facebook behaved again as previously described.
When I switched off the VPN, facebook stopped behaving erratically, and allowed me to login.
However, after logging out and trying to login again, I experienced again the problem, and was once again not able to login.It seems, anyway, that it has to do with the VPN. >
Until about 1-2 weeks, when I was using facebook with VPN, the only thing I had to take care was to NOT use a VPN IP address from another country (as facebook would presume that my user is hijacked and asked me to prove that it is really me, through various means). But now, even with a VPN IP address from my country of usual residence, it produces the abovementioned errors.
(I am using a VPN because my provider is small, has just a small amount of IP addresses available, and some of them are discredited by some other users, so if these IPs happen to be the ones which are given to me for a while, I get sometimes blocked by google or other websites asking me to prove I'm not a robot. When using VPN this does not happen).
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