Tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7 - fixed in 3.7.2209.3
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Definitely reported or not?
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definitely reported here (next page Gwen-Dragon confirmed it)
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@derDay While it may be related somehow, they seem to be different problems. This one is about ordering (ABC vs CBA). That one is about how "After Active Tab" doesn't work.
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@guigirl That's not global, as I said in the same thread, so far it depended on the pre set New Tab Position. That is, if you are at tab O and have tabs ABCD in a BM folder, and you've set "After Related Tabs", every new tab is related to the previous (opened) one so you get O->A,B,C,D, while if you 've set "After Active Tab", there's only one active tab, the one you are at, O, so A is being opened first, next B is opened next to the active tab which is still the initial one (O), so you get O->D,C,B,A. Only in 3.5 due to the cleaning of code (and the known reported bug by you) it got a bit messed up, thus the confusion.
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@guigirl said in Bug: tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
@npro said in Bug: tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
have tabs ABDC in a BM folder
I expect you have a typo there.
thx, fixed
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@guigirl said in Bug: tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
Fwiw, just now i tested those other two options. Guess what? 100% of the time, my result is ABC. Ain't i the lucky bunny then?
Lol, that's the bug we are talking about, try the same with Vivaldi Stable to see how it was pre 3.5
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@guigirl So the other way it was an unnoticed bug since the beginning from what you say, and discovered in 3.5, nope, doesn't make sense either (see part about tab O being ALWAYS the active one, next to active = next to O).
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@guigirl So "After Active Tab" has no reason to exist and should be deleted. Fine by me . /edit: but mind it isn't only about stored tabs.
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@rseiler Uhm, I might be wrong here, but as far as I understand the opening post, this thread is about the order of the focusing of the tabs, i.e. opening the folder places the tabs in the tab bar in the order ABCD, but when you close one tab the next one is focused in the order DCBA. At least that's what I am experiencing as I tried to explain more thoroughly (and more complicated) here.
I haven't reported that yet because I couldn't find someone who could confirm it. -
Today's posts stretch to the breaking point my ability to understand what's happening, but to the point of "ABC stored = ABC opened" not being called a bug....
We can agree that it's an unannounced change of behavior in 3.5. If it's a deliberate improvement, they need to say so and we can move on. If it isn't, it's a bug.
Maybe they should have done it that way from Day 1. Maybe it makes more sense. But they didn't.
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@guigirl It may be logical, but after several years if they change something completely unannounced and out of the blue, by definition it can't be expected.
Just because something might be a change for the better doesn't eliminate it possibly being a bug. After all, they've been stone silent on this sudden change. And where are all the complaints about how it's been all along if it was so illogical? I don't think it was top of mind for anyone over the last five years, leading me to wonder all the more if it was intentional or not. We can't even get some things changed with hundreds of requests.
It's not great to have unintentional changes. Next time, it might be something you don't like.
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Here's the full description of the bug I'm (still) experiencing (Vivaldi 3.5.2115.54 x64 on Windows 10):
- I have a Speed Dial folder with bookmarks 1, 2, 3, 4.
- I wheel-click the folder, which opens tabs 1, 2, 3, 4 next to the tab with Speed Dial (whenever I'm opening a whole folder at once, the Speed Dial tab is usually the only thing opened in this Vivaldi window)
- I close the Speed Dial tab
- Before this bug started happening, tab 1 would get focused, and when I closed that, tab 2, then 3 and then 4 would get focus. Since the bug, started happening, some builds focus tab 4 (and when it gets closed, tab 3, 2, 1 get focus), while other builds focus tab 1, but when tab 1 is closed, tab 4 gets focus, then 3, 2.
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@ender85 What do you have selected in Settings, Tabs, Closed Tab Activation?
- With Activate in Recently Used Order, the last tab opened gains focus on closing the Start Page tab, which is as I expect.
- With Activate Right in Tab Order, they are activated as 1, 2, 3, 4.
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It's "Activate in Recently Used Order" (and I've had this setting from the beginning - long before the problem appeared).
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@ender85 So the bug got fixed in recent builds.
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@Gwen-Dragon said in tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
If the opening was in reverse order before, i wold call it a a UI bug and bad usability. Now devs changed it and you are unhappy about that silent fix.
First of all, I had no idea it was a bug before. Do you know that it was for a fact or is that supposition?
I thought it was simply the way that it was done, since after all, who says that A-B-C top down in bookmarks is supposed to equate to A-B-C left-to-right across in tabs? There are plenty of things in Vivaldi that don't make 100% sense to me as THE most logical way of doing something, so this was simply one of those. I accepted it long ago and forgot about it.
Now that we're looking at it retroactively, sure, it probably makes sense the "new" way, but if this was such an affront to humanity, where are the previous threads (and bug reports on your end)? Not saying they don't exist, but surely they must be legion given the five or six years.
Secondly, "unhappy about that silent fix" is inaccurate given the above. I didn't even know it was a fix. I thought we were supposed to bring to light this kind of thing. Maybe we aren't.
And aren't notable fixes supposed to be documented in the release notes? This one is notable. I can show you much less notable ones than this that are. Which still leads to the possibility that it's unintentional, perhaps a side-effect of another change. As we all know, that isn't exactly an unheard of occurrence, so it's not sci-fi.
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@Pesala said in tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
@ender85 So the bug got fixed in recent builds.
No, it's still present in 3.5.2115.54. Behaviour prior to 3.5.2088.7 was that opening folder with tabs 1,2,3,4, then closing tabs one-by-one you'd see them in order 1,2,3,4. With 3.5.2115.54 you get 1,4,3,2 instead, which makes no sense at all.
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@ender85 said in tab order broken in 3.5.2088.7:
With 3.5.2115.54 you get 1,4,3,2 instead, which makes no sense at all.
I cannot reproduce this if the Start Page is the only tab opened, and Activate in Recently Used Order is the Closed Tab Activation Order.
If another tab was the most recently used before opening the Start Page, then that will, of course, be the one activated, and not any of those opened from the Start Page.
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@ender85 That is exactly what I am experiencing and in my opinion it is a bug.
I have reported it just now(VB-74965) "Activate in Recently Used Order" is ignored with tabs opened from a folder
and replied to the e-mail from the bug tracker with some more information. Maybe @Gwen-Dragon can take a look at it? -
@Rexfahrer The problem continues to exist with the new snapshot 2115.63 (not that I would expect that after one hour since my bug report...) but I think the one described by @rseiler seems to be fixed.