Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit
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I am currently using 3.0.1874.32.
I have held off on installing the 64-bit version because I've had problems with "upgrades" like this in the past with various applications, and once upon a time when the 64-bit Vivaldi was new a lot of people recommended sticking with 32-bit.
I found the following thread in a search:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/12868/change-from-32bit-to-64bit-vivaldi-or-vice-versa
..but it is 4-years old. Is this still applicable? Do 64 and 32 bit Vivaldi applications co-exist at the same time on a system and share all the user data files?
Are there some specific reasons why I should switch to 64-bit?
If I do switch, is there any reason to keep the 32-bit application?
Thanks
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@ImaginaryFreedom If you have a 64-bit system, 64-bit will be faster and more efficient than 32-bit. You can install 64 right over the top of 32, with no ill effects.
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@Ayespy said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
@ImaginaryFreedom If you have a 64-bit system, 64-bit will be faster and more efficient than 32-bit. You can install 64 right over the top of 32, with no ill effects.
Thanks for your input.
So does this mean it replaces the prior 32-bit app, installs as a second app, or ?
How is the memory usage between the 2 versions? I understand a 64-bit app will allow the app access to more RAM, but how about the comparative memory usage before one hits the 32-bit memory limit?
Because if there are no disadvantages whatsoever, I'd obviously prefer to just remove the 32-bit version once the 64-bit version is installed.
Are there extensions that only work on one variant or the other? I already have a number of extensions installed.
Thanks.
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Hi,
First of all, make a Profile BackUp.About your RAM question, I just have 64 installed.
You may keep 32 as StandAlone or reverse and test by yourself.What amount of RAM has your System?
Dual GPU?Extensions are unaffected AFAIK.
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@ImaginaryFreedom My experience has been that it replaces the relevant files in the existing installed instance of Vivaldi in the Application folder and does not touch the User Data folder.
Out of an abundance of caution, backing up one's profile as suggested by @Zalex108 is never a bad idea.
Just as a note, I don't think it would ever be a good idea to go the other way - install 32-bit over 64-bit - as file incompatibilities could arise in the Application folder.
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@Zalex108 said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
You may keep 32 as StandAlone or reverse and test by yourself.
I don't know what you mean by that sentence.
If the two application variants are sharing data, I don't really consider either one of them "standalone".
What amount of RAM has your System?
Dual GPU?I have many systems.
My primary desktop workstation at home is a professional workstation with a 130-watt Quadro video card and 16GB RAM. I could install a secondary card in it if I had 4 or more monitors to support, but I only use 2 at a time. (And that machine is due to get replaced before too long anyway)
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@Ayespy said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
@ImaginaryFreedom My experience has been that it replaces the relevant files in the existing installed instance of Vivaldi in the Application folder and does not touch the User Data folder.
Out of an abundance of caution, backing up one's profile as suggested by @Zalex108 is never a bad idea.
Just as a note, I don't think it would ever be a good idea to go the other way - install 32-bit over 64-bit - as file incompatibilities could arise in the Application folder.
So you're saying if I install 64-bit without first uninstalling 32-bit, it changes the application files in the same folder used by the 32-bit app.
Which would mean that I likely cannot fully revert the install at an application level if there's something I don't like about the 64-bit version without doing filesystem-level data restores.
That's precisely why I never wanted to try installing 64-bit yet. (Well and as of 2-3 yrs ago apparently the 64-bit version was a memory hog, too)
But now that Vivaldi has evolved into a state that is more useful to me (and my other non-mainstream browser options are starting to look like they may become untenable at some point), I'm taking a closer look at spending more time with Vivaldi, so that's why I'm looking at the 64-bit version now.
Thanks for your input. I will probably install the 64-bit version after some backups and system restore points and see how it goes. No rush at this point.
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@ImaginaryFreedom Yes. The switch to 64 is without issue. I can't be sure, but the switch back to 32 might not be. That said, I have fallen into the habit of installing only 64-bit apps here, given the option. They can take full advantage of the system, and 32-bit cannot, plus my current system has all the resources I am ever likely to need under foreseeable circumstances (which chiefly comes down to 16GB of DDR4 RAM), so there's no reason not to.
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@Ayespy said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
@ImaginaryFreedom Yes. The switch to 64 is without issue. I can't be sure, but the switch back to 32 might not be.
As an IT guy, the way I look at it is if the system cannot be returned to more or less the exact state it was in before installing an app that was subsequently removed for some reason, then the update process is not "without issue".
That said, I have fallen into the habit of installing only 64-bit apps here, given the option.
When I have no other background information on a 64-bit app I will not simply install it because the number says "64". (Especially if it's a new variant to an app that has been only 32-bit for a long time. Case in point: when I first pondered this question wrt Vivaldi, the 64-bit version was new, buggy, and a memory hog.)
But certainly going forward I'd like to be running that version too, now that it's apparently stable.
I've "been around the block" enough times to know that there are frequently 'gotchas', which is why I asked here. For example with earlier Firefox-based browsers, if a plugin (not extension/addon) was not specifically designed as 64-bit compatible, if you updated a 32-bit FF-based browser to the 64-bit version, your 32-bit plugins like PDF readers and so on would break. If they didn't make a 64-bit version of that plugin, you're SOL.
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@ImaginaryFreedom For this reason, I have (involuntarily) 32-bit and 64-bit PaintShop Pro installed here. The damn 32-bit and 64-bit plugins are different.
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@ImaginaryFreedom said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
@Zalex108 said in Change 32-bit installation to 64-bit:
You may keep 32 as StandAlone or reverse and test by yourself.
I don't know what you mean by that sentence.
If the two application variants are sharing data, I don't really consider either one of them "standalone".
You can use --user-data-dir= and point to run a Profile outside from the default location.
Since you want to test on the same Version [Stable or SnapShot] but different architecture.What amount of RAM has your System?
Dual GPU?I have many systems.
My primary desktop workstation at home is a professional workstation with a 130-watt Quadro video card and 16GB RAM. I could install a secondary card in it if I had 4 or more monitors to support, but I only use 2 at a time. (And that machine is due to get replaced before too long anyway)
That's lots of mices running on a wheel!!!
:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:Using the powerful GPU to run V can release CPU and RAM.
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