What is stopping you from using V all the time?

Ayespy

@Catweazle When it's released, yes.

Gaëlle

mangguo

“What is stopping you from using V all the time?” Nothing really. For work I have to use Chrome (which I don't particularly like) and some other Google stuff but other than that I am using it all the time.

The lack of an inbuilt mail client was a bit of a disappointment, but ever since I discovered side panels I found I can just log in to my mail, switch to the mobile view and it works!

christiehmalry

Nothing for me, ive been using it as my main browser since 2015, love having plenty of options, love being able to separately scale the UI without modding the shortcut. I can't abide chrome it's a typical google if you don't like it tough luck product. Firefox is great but a lot less great since they nerfed add-ons and too slow once you get accustomed to V. The old blurry text with acceleration enabled issue that was my only big V. gripe stopped being an issue for me about 2 years ago so i'm happy.

lisating

I'm new to Vivaldi (one week) and really love the browser so far.

However, I've came across some big bugs that have made the browser not be able to be my main browser yet. Or I have to pop over to Chrome.

One thing I submitted as a report already. There's one issue I'm having today that I posted about in the forum (looks like it may be an issue because of the info I have had to give).

I have some minor things that I just expect to work. Also I was in a game two days ago. The keyboard stopped working properly. Then I tried to tab within my game. This actually Alt-Tabbed and brought up all my available things open on the desktop. I couldn't type "M" (for map) in my game, and when I left the game, I couldn't type that letter and others in a notepad. I've had something similar happen before with little software apps on my desktop, and ended up having to not load them when I game. So if Vivaldi is to be my main browser, it cannot interfere with my game or my keys or anything.

I really love the customization capabilities of the browser, and the little sidebar and the fact that I can load Twitter in there is awesome. However, I need DARK everything (and use Dark Reader extension to color the pages) and Dark Reader does not work in the sidebar. So I can't load any page that isn't natively able to be dark. Twitter - yes - I have the dark mode on. Lifehacker? No because it doesn't have a dark mode and it's blinding white in the sidebar. So I can't really use that bar how I'd like.

I really like Speed Dial. I'm hoping that my setup will sync to my new computer build so I don't have to redo it. I'd like to be able to have my setup on Mobile too, without having to copy+paste any files or anything.

I'm really excited to use this browser! I just hope the annoyances get fixed quickly enough. AND I HAVE TO SAY! This is the only PC browser so far that doesn't flash white pages between loading pages with Dark Reader installed. I haven't seen one white page flash yet. It happens still on Chrome and I stopped using Firefox. Kiwi browser on Mobile is natively dark and does not do any white page flashing at all. So Vivaldi, my eyes are counting on you!

Catweazle

@lisating , welcome to the community.
If you like dark mode on all pages, Dark Reader is obviously a good option. But there are also other possibilities.You can use the invert filter, which you find by clicking on the <> symbol in the taskbar. Also a possibility is Chromium's Dark Mode itself, which you find by typing in the search bar "vivaldi: // flags" and looking for Dark Mode in the list. This works also in Vivaldi mobile. I have placed vivaldi: // flags on the webpanel, so I always have access at any time for some adjustments.

mib2berlin

@lisating
Hi, extensions are not supported in the sidebar/Webpanel but there is a feature request already.
The speeddial is only a bookmark folder and is synced.
Speeddial custom thumbnails are not synced yet.

Cheers, mib

BoneTone

@lisating said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

However, I need DARK everything (and use Dark Reader extension to color the pages) and Dark Reader does not work in the sidebar. So I can't load any page that isn't natively able to be dark. Twitter - yes - I have the dark mode on. Lifehacker? No because it doesn't have a dark mode and it's blinding white in the sidebar. So I can't really use that bar how I'd like.

Far superior to Dark Reader is an extension called Stylus. It gives you much more customization abilities than just changing the colors and you can make the dark theme use whatever colors you like. Easily apply different customization to different sites, have it not apply to certain sites. Once I discovered Stylus I quickly got rid of Dark Reader, highly recommend it. If you need any help don't hesitate to ask. You can also download styles for numerous sites that were crafted by other users either by visiting the user styles website, or directly from within the extension when you visit s website that you want to apply custom styling to. It works on all pages that extensions have the ability to modify (certain pages are off limits to all extensions), and this includes making the pages dark in web panels.

sgunhouse

As far as the keyboard thing, I have encountered it before - though not in Vivaldi. It happens if you switch active programs while a modifier key was pressed (such as Alt or Ctrl).

I used to use an external spell-checker that would sit in the systray; a floating icon would change as you typed to indicate whether a word was correct or not and there was a shortcut to press for a list of suggestions. Unfortunately the shortcut involved the Alt key, and after selecting the correct spelling whatever program I had been using didn't know the Alt key had been released. I would have to press and release Alt again before the keyboard returned to normal.

I refer to this as a "stuck key", though it is not in any physical sense. What you describe sounds like that.

xaxa

The on crucial factor preventing me from using Vivaldi as main browser throughout my systems (desktops Windows & Linux, phone Android) is missing support for ”Omnibox-API“ extensions.

I just can't adapt to not using extensions like Xeno Wikipedia (which I consider essential, but which isn't used a lot by others, stats show) or Leo Recherche (which has more active users besides me).

I understand that it might be a little bit more complicated to support chrome.omnibox with Vivaldi's privacy approach to the address bar and/or separate search box. But I think it's possible, e.g. implementing it in search box if that exists, address box otherwise, if suggestions functionality enabled.

Please don't consider this a shameless self-plug – rather I wrote these extensions, because I felt the need to have them.

pafflick

@xaxa I haven't used those extensions, but to me, it seems that Vivaldi (desktop) already provides their functionality within the browser, with the use of custom search engines (which also includes the suggestions).

That, of course, doesn't address the issue of the chrome.omnibox support lacking, but I don't see any reason why I should use these kinds of extensions if I have the Vivaldi search tools at hand.

xaxa

I can tell you, why I created these extensions after recognizing that custom search engines are not enough:

Bolt use a second token (after the custom-search-engine-like handle; e.g. wx de vivaldi or wx en vivaldi, lx ru tschüss or lx fr tschüss, respectively) to specify the desired language version. You can't do that with plain old custom search engine functionality.

pafflick

@xaxa You can achieve that but it would require adding separate engine for each language. So, it depends on how many languages you actually need. If it's 2 or 3 then you can go with the built-in functionality. But if you search in many languages frequently, then adding all of them would be a little bit troublesome, and you would probably clutter the search engines list.

A possibility to add a modifier for an existing search engine could be a solution for this, you can make such a request here if you wish.

BoneTone

@xaxa @pafflick couldn't that be supported rather easily, even if it is a half dozen different languages, by giving them nicknames? The main difference, I think, would be that you drop a space, e.g. wxde vivaldi or wxen vivaldi, etc. You could also drop an extra letter and just do things like wxd, wxe, lxr, lxf, in the interest of brevity. Have a few dozen custom search engines defined myself, creating 4 or more for something so crucial to one's workflow seems rather straightforward.

xaxa

@BoneTone It could. And I used this approach back in Opera …12 times.

But that just works for me alone. and it isn't a general solution that is easily usable by people round the world. (The wheel would have to be invented over and over again, so to speak.)

pafflick

@BoneTone This is what I was talking about. If you could use another parameter along with %S (search query) it would serve as a modifier, which would extend the search feature's functionality. I see a wide variety of use cases for this, not only a different language, but you can use this to search - for example - for some products that have a specific parameter, like eg. eb backpack 100 which you could set up to return you the results for backpacks under $100 on eBay, and so on...

Streptococcus

Is it not your arm that gets tired from pushing a mouse around?
I once got a repetitive strain injury in my shoulder from pushing a mouse around. I first got a touchpad and then later a trackball. Those solved the problem.

sean8102

@mossman

@mossman said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

@Pesala said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

@Ayespy said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

Storing private data in any cloud gives me the creeps.
It need not if you archive and encrypt it first before uploading it to the cloud.

If you're encrypting it first then you have a password to get to your password which you get from the cloud...

If you're memorising the master password anyway - and then going through extra encryption/decryption steps - isn't it easier just to memorise the password you're trying to keep?

In my case I have a couple of standard low-level passwords for all my internet stuff, plus a small number of high-level passwords for mail etc. I just remember them all - and they're quite cryptic.

I do sometimes note my work passwords somewhere since they force me to change those all the time - but again, I note down cryptic clues instead of the actual password.

I know this is old so sorry about that. I ended up here because correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw a recently dated post saying that Vivaldi still does not support Lastpass?!

Then saw your post. First off to each their own, but I genuinely can't comprehend how you could think that using last pass makes password management HARDER or involve more steps. Or the thought that you aren't comfortable because your passwords are stored on a server somewhere (they aren't, a encrypted container is the only thing ever uploaded to LastPass servers and LastPass never gets a copy of the key required to decrypt it. All encryption and decryption only happens on your device. They have also won every independent third party security certification you can imagine. Their white paper dose a good job showing how not even someone at LastPass could see what's in your vault if they tried. https://assets.cdngetgo.com/60/be/323790b344bf8e631ecb033e4cad/lastpass-technical-whitepaper.pdf Bottom line over 25 million users and I've never heard of a single security breach/flaw so they got to be doing something right. And genuinely couldn't use a browser (or phone) without LastPass suppport.

As for the extra steps, what extra steps? Once the extension is installed in your browser and you login with your master password, you're good to go. I check the "keep me logged in option" when first using a new install of a browser. Then every time I go to a site where I have an account LastPass uses its auto fill system to just fill in the user name / email and password field. Or if I'm signing up for an account on a site it can auto fill in my name, username, address, state, zip code, and generate a secure random password for me and store it in the vault in one click.

I don't know any of my passwords because they are all unique (no two sites use the same password), they are all 8 to 12 completely random letters, numbers, and symbols. My master password is something I def will never forget (not just because I've been using LastPass for years but also because of what that master password is) and it's something no one would ever EVER guess. Even if they somehow impossibly guessed my master password, they still couldn't get in because of the two-factor authentication. On top the browser extensions (works on FF, Chrome, Edge, Edge Chromium, Brave etc etc) they have an Android (and iOS app) that dose the same things. I use whatever browser I want on my android phone and since I have LastPass installed when I go to a site and the login page comes up it says tap here to fill with last pass. I tap that, let the phone get my finger print and last pass fills it in. Dose the same for logging me into apps as well.

mossman

@sean8102 said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

I genuinely can't comprehend how you could think that using last pass makes password management HARDER or involve more steps

You went off on a massive rant against me, but did I even say that? looking at what you quoted I'm describing how I was dealing with internet passwords at the time by keeping only a few important ones in memory. This is a post from years ago, isn't it?

Since Vivaldi sync a while back this entire question is now redundant to me.

Stardust

I hope these issues will be addressed with high priority:

more responsive zooming
middle click scrolling for Linux
new (optional) elements on the Address Bar: bookmark menu, zoom buttons, download button
bookmarks management improvements