Solved Why don't Emoji render on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32)?
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Emoji support on a relatively recent build of Vivaldi seems rather weak.
Many ISO emoji are not rendered at all (all I see is a blank square box), the ones that Vivaldi does recognize are typically shown in simple monochrome style.
My other (Firefox-based) browsers don't have this issue - they render most common emoji in full color with few exclusions.
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Vivaldi/Chromium render the emoji as provided by the system, they don't bundle any into the browsers themselves. Since Windows 7 supports only the monochrome emojis that's what you get to see.
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@ImaginaryFreedom
Hi, we need an example link for testing.
Do you use any add/tracking extension except Vivaldi´s?Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in Emoji rendering on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32):
@ImaginaryFreedom
Hi, we need an example link for testing.
Do you use any add/tracking extension except Vivaldi´s?Cheers, mib
Yes I do use various extensions including uBlock Origin.
Bear in mind that Vivaldi is rendering SOME emoji (one can just load the English-language wikipedia page on "emoji" to see this), but many of the emoji there are not rendering and virtually all of them are rendering as simple monochrome images.
What is supposed to happen? Does Vivaldi embed one of the common Emoji libraries like EmojiONE or Twitter Emoji?
Most of the time when I paste a common emoji into an online document editor - even a simple old-fashioned "smiley" - it just shows up as a blank square.
I don't have this issue with my Firefox-based desktop browsers. (Which also have ad-blocking extensions and various other extensions installed)
Neither do I have the issue with the Android version of Vivaldi. The Unicode chart of emoji on the wikipedia page renders almost identically on Vivaldi for Android as my usual desktop browser, PaleMoon. (Which is a fork of Firefox that uses Mozilla's Twemoji, apparently.)
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Vivaldi/Chromium render the emoji as provided by the system, they don't bundle any into the browsers themselves. Since Windows 7 supports only the monochrome emojis that's what you get to see.
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@rluik said in Emoji rendering on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32):
Vivaldi/Chromium render the emoji as provided by the system, they don't bundle any into the browsers themselves. Since Windows 7 supports only the monochrome emojis that's what you get to see.
I wondered about that. Almost mentioned it in my original post but thought it was long enough already.
Of course the Firefox-based browsers I use do not have that problem because they embed the emoji images in their rendering engine.
Next step is to see what happens on one of my rarely-used W10 machines then. Thanks for your input.
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@Gwen-Dragon said in Why don't Emoji render on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32)?:
@ImaginaryFreedom I do not knwo if that could work for you, but you may try the free TrueType font Noto Color Emoji, looks nice in Linux.
Download http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fonts-noto-color-emoji/fonts-noto-color-emoji_0~20200408-1_all.deb
and extract with 7Zip, extract the data.tar.xz file and look for the ttf file in the extracted folders.Thanks for that tip, I may try that.
Ultimately I will be forced to migrate to Win 10 on most of my Windows systems since I have to support it for clients, but I'm going to be kicking/screaming all the way..
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@ImaginaryFreedom For what it's worth, every system I ever switched from Win7 to Win10 was faster and more efficient, used less memory, after the switch. Again, for what it's worth.
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Hardware resource efficiency isn't my issue with Windows 10.
My issue has to do with things like how Microsoft is now trying to out-Google Google when it comes to sneaky, obsessive data collection and incessant marketing in every nook and cranny of your computing experience. And their "Big Brother" attitude about O/S updates which are now largely outside of user control. Neither am I much a fan of the overall UI. For my own purposes I will probably start installing something like Classic Shell on my machines once I'm forced to use them on a daily basis. Etc.
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@ImaginaryFreedom At present, all of that is still possible to bypass and override, as I do. MS has no view into my machine, my location, or my browsing habits right now. Of course, one has to pay attention to all of the available options, etc. But it is still possible to be a cipher to MS.
I do use Classic Shell. I don't cotton to the Win10 UI at all - but at least they have altered a lot of the defaults back to what Win7 users were used to in the first place.
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I'd sincerely doubt you could be completely invisible to Microsoft as a user of their OS, but surely you can improve matters somewhat. (I tend to install something like ShutUp10 on my Win10 machines, for example)
The simple fact that you are forced to constantly download updates from them or else your OS will end up unsupported is a good example.
I always got a kick out of those Microsoft installation dialog boxes that claimed to be "Checking for available disk space" for like 10 minutes before deciding to proceed with the install. (Umm, no... you are not checking for available disk space - which takes a fraction of 1 second - you are scanning all sorts of other things on the system to check the environment and collect data, but that doesn't sound quite so innocuous as "Checking for available space". They've been doing that nonsense for at least 15-20 years now.
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@Gwen-Dragon said in Why don't Emoji render on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32)?:
@ImaginaryFreedom I do not knwo if that could work for you, but you may try the free TrueType font Noto Color Emoji, looks nice in Linux.
Download http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fonts-noto-color-emoji/fonts-noto-color-emoji_0~20200408-1_all.deb
and extract with 7Zip, extract the data.tar.xz file and look for the ttf file in the extracted folders.So I tried this - thanks for the suggestion - but WIndows 7 doesn't seem to think that file is a valid TrueType font.
Do you know people who have installed that font on Windows machines successfully?
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@ImaginaryFreedom
I haven't done so, but a.ttffile should work better on Windows.You can extract theNotoColorEmoji.ttffile from the.debarchive at\fonts-noto-color-emoji_0_20200408-1_all.deb\data.tar\.\usr\share\fonts\truetype\noto\.Or download the font from the GitHub repo here.Edit: Tried it, and it didn't work as @Gwen-Dragon said. See this link for an explanation why: https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji/issues/43
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@Gwen-Dragon
Oh well.
At some point I may go looking for another emoji font.
Though realistically, I'm not going to be using these Win7 machines forever, either.
Maybe for the social media sites I use where emoji support is more of an issue I will install that font in Linux and use Linux instead.
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@Gwen-Dragon said in Why don't Emoji render on Windows 7 (3.0.1874.32)?:
@ImaginaryFreedom I can not test Windows 7, this one https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji/raw/master/fonts/NotoColorEmoji.ttf does not work for you?
OMG! There is a bug for this font on Windows https://github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji/issues/289
Bad!
No it doesn't work (see previous posts above) and based on the link posted here by someone previously it looks like it's a big political mess with 3 different "camps" that all have different ideas about what should be done to deploy color fonts and they are being stubborn about supporting anyone else's method.
Thanks for the idea, anyway.
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@Gwen-Dragon
By the way - I just noticed that someone changed the thread title here.
Is it too much to ask to be sent a notification when someone modifies your thread?
At first I didn't recognize it in the list because it's not the title I used when I created it.
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I've found another workaround.
Downloaded Twemoji Mozilla font from https://github.com/mozilla/twemoji-colr/releases
Installed it to the system. Now you can either set is as default/standard or sans-serif font in the browser or use stylus to set family font it on webpages.Both methods have their side effects though.
With first method some webpages that don't set their own font (including some internal ones) will use this font and while it likes digits and some punctuation there will be displayed wrongly.
In the second method you have to include whole buch of fonts used in websites and put twemoji at the end, but still will change fonts on some pages. And it doesn't work everywhere.I combine both methods and it works for me. Still not perfect, but works.
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