Pagefile.sys increases till hard disk gets full
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@ilp0000 There are just too many unknowns for us to guess what is happening on your system. You need to document what goes on when it happens. At the moment we're not even sure Vivaldi is causing the problems. For all we know, it's running Windows under Bootcamp which is the cause.
You say you've checked your Virtual Memory setting, and it's set to 12GB max. and you also say it maintains 8GB which then would be perfectly normal. In my opinion you should set the page file to be system managed if you don't know what you need, but that's another discussion...
You also say your system drive is 140GB which should be more than enough if your page file is set to 12GB.
So I don't know where you get the idea that it's the page file (or even Vivaldi) that's causing the issues. And what even is the issue? Does your system get slow, do you get warnings of full disk, what messages do you see (if any)? How can you know it's your page file?
When it happens, you need to document what goes on so we don't have to guess:
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Open Task Manager, click the Memory column to sort and make a screenshot of it to show the most used applications. This will give an idea of your memory usage.
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In Task Manager, Performance tab, note the usage under Memory, in use vs. available, and especially the value of the Paged Pool.
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In Task Manager, Performance tab, note the usage of the C drive (usually Disk 0). This will show if something is continually writing to disk as would happen if system is paging a lot.
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Open a command prompt as administrator, by searching Start for "command prompt", right-click and choose Run as Administrator. Then run the following commands and paste the output here as
code blocks:
dir /a c:\pagefile.sys(assuming your page file is on C:)
systeminfo(we're only interested in the memory parts here)
tasklist(list all processes and their memory usage)
wmic pagefile list(to list the size and usage of the page file)
For instance the last command will output something like:
AllocatedBaseSize CurrentUsage Description InstallDate Name PeakUsage Status TempPageFile 1024 81 D:\pagefile.sys 20150130191905.548076+060 D:\pagefile.sys 86 FALSEAs you can see, my pagefile is 1024MB (1GB) but currently it actually only uses 81MB. The most it's used during this uptime is 86MB.
For the sysinfo part it will look like this:
Total Physical Memory: 16 332 MB Available Physical Memory: 10 669 MB Virtual Memory: Max Size: 17 356 MB Virtual Memory: Available: 10 632 MB Virtual Memory: In Use: 6 724 MB Page File Location(s): D:\pagefile.sys- Lastly, get a program to visualise the disk usage on your system, to enable you to find what might be taking up all the space. Here are a couple of good and free ones:
https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free
https://antibody-software.com/web/software/software/wiztree-finds-the-files-and-folders-using-the-most-disk-space-on-your-hard-drive/
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Hi,
My suggestion is to reenable the Page file, (Disable, restart, Enable) and limiting it to 32Gb.
And as said,
Hibernate tabs if you want to keep them up instead of Bookmark them or create Sessions.If still,
Try on a Test Profile.--
Also,
What's the free disk space?--
"Off Topic Tip"
Follow the Signature's Backup | Reset link.
Take the opportunity to start a Backup plan and even create a Template Profile.
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@bonetone The last sentence I wrote was a joke - hardware isn't a issue. I'm investigating system log. Thanks.
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This is quite interesting, I just experienced this behavior for the first time. Not sure if it was vivaldi, but all the space on the drive got consumed, them vivaldi failed to save tabs and I lost my current session.
I have a backup server but restoring 'current session' and 'last session' don't bring them back. Any ideas?
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@comapie seems different from my case; whenver that happened, the last session was recovered - I mean when I start it, the last session brought up- in my case. I would advise you to see what happens more.
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@Pathduck Oh, I don't know why but I just found your post now. It must have posted earlier-but it wasn't seen from what I saw. Anyhow thank you for your active interest.
@Pathduck said in Pagefile.sys increases till hard disk gets full:
You say you've checked your Virtual Memory setting, and it's set to 12GB max. and you also say it maintains 8GB which then would be perfectly normal. In my opinion you should set the page file to be system managed if you don't know what you need, but that's another discussion...
You also say your system drive is 140GB which should be more than enough if your page file is set to 12GB.
So I don't know where you get the idea that it's the page file (or even Vivaldi) that's causing the issues. And what even is the issue? Does your system get slow, do you get warnings of full disk, what messages do you see (if any)? How can you know it's your page file?I meant that pagefile.sys had been set as "system managed" as you mentioned and the file had increased till around 12G. Now after the recent "don't wake up from sleep mode", I manually set:
- disabled hibernation, which automatically freed hibernate.sys that always occupied 13G
- and set the pagefile.sys manually: min 1G and max 8G
and keep testing. As I expected, the file easily was filled up to 8G and I keep watching. I'll post if something happens.
I might not be pagesys or Vivaldi, but at the same time they are the most appealing as I wrote before though months of probing. I'll report when the behavior comes, as you advised.
BTW, what do you mean by "For all we know, it's running Windows under Bootcamp which is the cause." ? I am also suspecting it-it could be related with driver and Windows update together but there's no way that I can dive into further.
Thanks again.
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@Zalex108 Thank you. My free disk space was usually 15 to 13G and now with some files deleted and hibernation.sys freed, it is about 15G.
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@Pathduck Now I got the Window system message that memory is full so close all the apps. I think manual pagefile.sys that is max 8G is not enough, leading to the error message.
I got the log as you advised. How should I send it to you?
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@ilp0000 said in Pagefile.sys increases till hard disk gets full:
How should I send it to you?
```md Paste logs and source files between lines that have three backticks to create block code tags. This prevents any HTML, or other patterns that might mess with the display from, being interpreted. Add the language right after the opening tag to turn on syntax highlighting. Use md for markdown which should disable most annoying highlights. ``` -
Yeah, the text can be pasted into a ```code block``` or on a site like pastebin.com.
The screenshots from Task Manager can be pasted here or on a site like imgur.com.What did Task Manager tell you about memory in use and disk usage on the Performance tab?
Did your system appear to hang or lag when this happened? This doesn't necessarily translate as high CPU as it's more likely IOWait happening.
Basically I think your disk is full and you need to sort it out, but let's see the numbers first.
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@Pathduck After I caught all the logs, the laptop went into sleep mode and woke up, it showed only windows background and mouse arrow - as you would know, it is a typical behavior when the memory is full. And in my case, 8G pagesys is far small, and memory must be full with some garbages.
My butthead is buggin me to code block or whatever. Are you there now? I'll put them on here and delete them as you as you got them.
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@ilp0000 OK thanks for the logs and the screenies. I'll have a look.
It would help if you could post the screenshot of Task Manager so it looks like this:
It would make it easier to know how much is used by each application. Also get the PID column in there by right-clicking the header and selecting "PID" (Process ID).
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@Pathduck I'll next time it happens. Thanx a lot anyhow!
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@ilp0000 OK some observations:
Your pagefile is 8GB but apparently it's only using 4,8GB of this, the most it's used is 5,6. Then again I don't know if this was during the situation or not.
AllocatedBaseSize CurrentUsage Description InstallDate Name PeakUsage Status TempPageFile 8000 4855 C:\pagefile.sys 20160202164436.323741+540 C:\pagefile.sys 5608 FALSEThe page file will grow in "steps" - it will allocate more memory as needed up until the max size. So it takes up 8GB even if it just uses 5GB.
You're running low on virtual memory here, but you still have physical memory free, this is because the system uses the page file instead:
총 실제 메모리: 16,260MB 사용 가능한 실제 메모리: 1,644MB 가상 메모리: 최대 크기: 24,260MB 가상 메모리: 사용 가능: 1,039MB 가상 메모리: 사용 중: 23,221MB 페이지 파일 위치: C:\pagefile.sysFrom your process list I can tell you're using a lot of memory. Why are you running Firefox, Chrome and Vivaldi all at the same time?
You have one process in Chrome taking up nearly 600MB, one in Firefox for 500MB, and one massive whopper in Vivaldi taking up nearly 2,3GB:
vivaldi.exe 15376 Console 1 2,273,980 K
I assume these huge ones are the GPU processes.You have 90 (!) processes in Vivaldi, 50 in Chrome and 6 in Firefox. Several of these are over 100MB in size. All these processes added together take up a lot of memory obviously.
Your're also running one huge application called "SDLTradosStudio" taking up 600MB. As well as the regular Windows services and other smaller applications. This all adds up - system memory is not an inexhaustible resource.
Basically I would say you simply don't have enough memory (physical+virtual) for your browsing habits. I assume this is a laptop so increasing physical memory won't be easy.
So your only option as I see it is to free up space on your C drive, to give the OS the opportunity to allocate more virtual memory. From what you've said earlier you don't have much free space left on C.
- Use tools to find out what takes up all the disk space (I've mentioned some in my earlier post)
- Move pictures/movies and other big files you want to keep off the drive and onto an external disk (even just a big USB stick, you can get these cheap with lots of space)
- EDIT to add: Your disk says capacity=233GB but it's only formatted to 140GB. Why? You should have plenty more space if you'd extend the partition or create a new one for storage on the same disk.
- Run Windows Disk Cleanup from time to time - especially after Windows updates.
- Use CCleaner or similar alternatives to clean up your disk regularly. Maybe you have massive system dumps somewhere, and this software will find and delete them.
- Once you have 30-40GB free space, set page file to "System Managed" to let the OS increase its size as needed since you have no idea how much you need.
- Try to change your browsing habits to not use so many resources; decrease number of tabs and don't use three different browsers at the same time.
Hopefully this will avoid your system filling up the disk with the page file since you're running short of virtual memory.
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@Pathduck Hi Thank you.
My point is that I had used much heavier without any issues before this issue came from months ago, and now I am suspecting that Vivaldi could be the reason.
Anyhow thanks a lot for your help.
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@ilp0000 Well, most likely your disk has gotten fuller and fuller until you no longer have any free space for the page file to grow as it needs.
I just did an add of the memory usage of all your processes - it adds up to a little over 18GB. So you should be fine with even 8GB of page file. The problem is your disk is full, simple as that...
If you're interested, these are the biggest:
vivaldi.exe 15376 Console 1 2273980 K SDLTradosStudio.exe 14312 Console 1 578468 K chrome.exe 10040 Console 1 575016 K firefox.exe 15748 Console 1 509772 K csrss.exe 696 Console 1 464836 K vivaldi.exe 18236 Console 1 330536 K vivaldi.exe 15684 Console 1 304360 K firefox.exe 9008 Console 1 296948 K vivaldi.exe 2236 Console 1 264496 K explorer.exe 5068 Console 1 252052 K chrome.exe 8824 Console 1 233388 K vivaldi.exe 6188 Console 1 205220 KI also asked you to do a
dir /a c:\pagefile.sysbut I can't see I got it, it would help to know exactly how much disk is free. -
@ilp0000 said in Pagefile.sys increases till hard disk gets full:
@Zalex108 Thank you. My free disk space was usually 15 to 13G and now with some files deleted and hibernation.sys freed, it is about 15G.
Then you have to limit the Page file size.
(That's my suggestion, since others suggest the opposite.
I prefer to manage it myself, but you can try both options and choose the best for you.)
Also you could try moving it to another partition if exist and has more space.Usually, double RAM size is the suggested for the Page file.
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You can also try looking on what is launch at startup / Tasks, and uncheck the unnecessary if any.
Look at TreeFileSize on PortableApps to see what's the space used by each file.
Sometimes, there are unnecessary cache files.If you use cCleaner as suggested, or any other, you can customize what to clean, for non common folders.
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About bootcamp, I suppose it's because the TaskManager says " Apple SSD".
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