Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update
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@lamarca said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
@Zalex108 said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
Yes,
But when is the backup created?
Maybe is empty also.Afaik, as soon as Vivaldi is closed.
I shutdown Vivaldi to make sure. Note the 2 sec difference
Good.
We'll see for @Exomancer
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@lamarca
@Zalex108
Thank you for your help. I fixed it ... sort of.
I lost my last bookmarks.
I Synced and that fixed my Bookmarks. However it also deleted my Notes even though the notes was not checked for the sync process. So Sync is screwed up. I manually copied my notes file and fixed that issue.Since the Sync I have been having problems with Vivaldi locking up on me with some process not related to any extension I can find that is associated with
vivaldi-bin --type+renderer --disable-webrtc-apm-in-audio-service --field-trial-handle=3250168613678667619,1024949636194859637,131072
followed by more it would take forever to type. Both extensions with webrtc blocking (uBlock Origin, and WebRTC Leak Prevent) are disabled. This is causing memory lockups with the browser unresponsive for minutes at a time to downright crashes. Vivaldi has crashed 3 times writing this comment. For some reason it is now quiet and not hogging memory.
I then reinstalled Vivaldi.
Writing this the system is starting to hog memory again ... I can't mouse select a location to fix my typing in this text box anymore and must backspace in this box to get to a correction location) ...
Arrow keying backward crashed Vivaldi again (4th time writing this).
I must say the crash recovery is much improved. However the constant crashing is a major problem. As is the backup for the Bookmarks and Notes.
My question about Sync was this: Almost all sync app I know: NEW > Old. If the New was the problem How would Vivaldi know OLD > New?
@Zalex108
What is V Profile Manager?General comment:
The Vivaldi Devs keep adding features which is great but are ignoring this very longstanding problem with protecting Bookmarks, Notes, Passwords etc. If it's because Chrome does it that way then Chrome is wrong! This should NOT be the problem it is. I have lost Bookmarks many times on Vivaldi updates. I had to keep full profile backups until last October when the problem seemed to disappear. Now it's back. So every update I have to go back to MANUALLY backing up my profiles in case the update eats my stuff???? And recovery is an absolute pain! All manual. Does ANYBODY see something wrong in this? No built in automatic backup system. No recovery system. Why? A browser is one of the most IMPORTANT software packages on just about anyone's machine. Since Chrome they're all mucked up. People are using Brave and Vivaldi to have good safe browsing. I don't need new features if the browser can't protect my stuff. -
You are welcome. Glad to know the bookmarks recovery.
Since the bookmark issue is solved, the topic should be tagged as resolved
In case you have a different issue, please, start a new thread.
Thx@Zalex108 I tagged as resolved.
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@Exomancer said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
@lamarca
@Zalex108
Thank you for your help. I fixed it ... sort of.
I lost my last bookmarks.
I Synced and that fixed my Bookmarks. However it also deleted my Notes even though the notes was not checked for the sync process. So Sync is screwed up. I manually copied my notes file and fixed that issue.
Didn't read about on other users.Since the Sync I have been having problems with Vivaldi locking up on me with some process not related to any extension I can find that is associated with
vivaldi-bin --type+renderer --disable-webrtc-apm-in-audio-service --field-trial-handle=3250168613678667619,1024949636194859637,131072
Where did you found the entry?
followed by more it would take forever to type. Both extensions with webrtc blocking (uBlock Origin, and WebRTC Leak Prevent) are disabled. This is causing memory lockups with the browser unresponsive for minutes at a time to downright crashes. Vivaldi has crashed 3 times writing this comment. For some reason it is now quiet and not hogging memory.
I then reinstalled Vivaldi.
Writing this the system is starting to hog memory again ... I can't mouse select a location to fix my typing in this text box anymore and must backspace in this box to get to a correction location) ...
Using the same Profile?
The problems mostly comes from the custom settings instead of the V files.
Arrow keying backward crashed Vivaldi again (4th time writing this).
I must say the crash recovery is much improved. However the constant crashing is a major problem. As is the backup for the Bookmarks and Notes.
My question about Sync was this: Almost all sync app I know: NEW > Old. If the New was the problem How would Vivaldi know OLD > New?
I don't understand that.
If you mean about 2 profiles:- OLD - Bookmarks lost and somehow broken
- NEW - Bookmarks and Notes recovered, but somehow broken if it has responsiveness problems
But I don't understand the question.
"Some extensions are known incompatible, maybe is something related"
@Zalex108
What is V Profile Manager?https://help.vivaldi.com/article/user-profiles/
General comment:
The Vivaldi Devs keep adding features which is great but are ignoring this very longstanding problem with protecting Bookmarks, Notes, Passwords etc. If it's because Chrome does it that way then Chrome is wrong! This should NOT be the problem it is. I have lost Bookmarks many times on Vivaldi updates. I had to keep full profile backups until last October when the problem seemed to disappear. Now it's back. So every update I have to go back to MANUALLY backing up my profiles in case the update eats my stuff???? And recovery is an absolute pain! All manual. Does ANYBODY see something wrong in this? No built in automatic backup system. No recovery system. Why? A browser is one of the most IMPORTANT software packages on just about anyone's machine. Since Chrome they're all mucked up. People are using Brave and Vivaldi to have good safe browsing. I don't need new features if the browser can't protect my stuff.@Zalex108 said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
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"Off topic Tip"
Follow the Signature's BackUp | Reset link.
Take the opportunity to start a Backup plan, even create a Template Profile.
Windows 7 (x64)
Vivaldi Back up | Reset -
I don't understand that.
If you mean about 2 profiles:OLD - Bookmarks lost and somehow broken
NEW - Bookmarks and Notes recovered, but somehow broken if it has responsiveness problemsBut I don't understand the question.
NEW means my current up to date Bookmarks dated later than those stored in Sync located on my system.
OLD means my last synced Bookmarks on the Vivaldi sync server.How does Vivaldi Sync know to download and overwrite the Blank NEW (latest dated) Bookmarks on my system) instead of uploading and overwriting the OLD (stored on the sync server older dated Bookmarks) leaving me with a blank Bookmark file stored on the server.
You see the problem. In a straight standard sync, NEW overwrites OLD. I can't tell Vivaldi Sync which way to go. How does it know the NEW blank version on my computer is the one I want overwritten by the OLD server copy of my last sync? It did it correctly but how did it know which way I wanted to sync?
V Profile Manager
Yeah I know about that. All it does is add or delete profiles.
Where did you found the entry?
That was recovered from the running process in the System Monitor.
Using the same Profile?
Yes. I don't want a billion profiles.
Thanks for all your help.
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@Zalex108
SyncBack is Windows only. I loved SyncBack Free when I was a Windows user. However I now use Kubuntu Linux so I can't use SyncBack anymore.I will look into Synkron. Thanks.
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Well,
Aparently, if you have some BKs and then activate Sync, they should be mixed.
Then any deletion should be updated.
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On Windows you have to use specific tools for that amount of info.
Ok,
I'll see here, but no problems for now.--
On V Profiles Manager,
You can have a Test profile, and in case something won't work, test it there.Depending on the result the problems is a Bug or a Custom Settings mess.
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SyncBack is great!
Synkron is at least a crossplataform alternative.RSync for Linux seems to be good as I've read on forums.
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If there are problems again,
I would start a new profile, set it up and back it up before Sync.
As a plain "Template" profile.Then enable Sync and get all personal Stuff and do another back up.
Could be keept as initial or rewrite it with weekly back ups.If you want another profile for Entertainment, Study, Work, Shopping... the Template will be ready to add any custom data on that specific profile.
Even if you share V with relatives / friends it will be set it up in just one shot.
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Since the bookmark issue is solved, the topic should be tagged as resolved
Yeah but not really. It never should have happened in the first place.
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Aparently, if you have some BKs and then activate Sync, they should be mixed.
Then any deletion should be updated.This reiterates my comment. If they are mixed then 0+1=1 then the deletions (all the bookmarks) -1+1 = 0. So post sync I have NO bookmarks like my NEW (latest dated) bookmark file not the OLD (already on sync) full bookmarks which are erased due to the "deletions" as per the empty NEW bookmarks leaving me with NO bookmarks. So is it safe to use Sync to recover Bookmarks?
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@Exomancer said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
How does it know the NEW blank version on my computer is the one I want overwritten by the OLD server copy of my last sync? It did it correctly but how did it know which way I wanted to sync?
Precisely because it was blank. They aren't "new", they are nothingness. It is overwriting nothingness with data.
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@bonetone
So if I synced then deleted all my bookmarks on purpose and synced again, it would write them all back again? Even though I purposely deleted them and the empty file is the correct one? -
@Exomancer said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
@bonetone
So if I synced then deleted all my bookmarks on purpose and synced again, it would write them all back again? Even though I purposely deleted them and the empty file is the correct one?No, and that's not what you did either. If you connect to sync and delete bookmarks, of course the delete operations are sync'd. You should have seen this already if you have ever deleted a bookmark with a profile that is sync'd; I have certainly been successful in sync'ing hundreds of thousands of deleted bookmarks myself. If you start Vivaldi with an empty or non-existent Bookmarks file, then the data will be sync'd from the server. You're not sync'ing deletions because there are no deletions to be sync'd, they don't exist. If you want to blow away the data on the server and replace it with whatever you might have locally (being or nothingness), do that by clicking the button for that.
Of course, as always, with any data, routine backups should be done to prevent the unintended loss of data. Expecting any piece of software to protect you from data loss is simply ensuring you will lose data at some point. This includes backup software as well.
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@Exomancer said in Vivaldi not reading bookmarks file after update:
Since the bookmark issue is solved, the topic should be tagged as resolved
Yeah but not really. It never should have happened in the first place.
Yeah but not really sounds like a ....... NoT resolved, hence I will remove the tag and keep up the health and necessary exchange of ideas, my fellow mod will assist you since I ran out of idea.
Cheers
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