Why does every release by the Opera devs refuse to honor the taskbar autohide/show convention?
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I'm running Windows 7, and I almost always only have the window maximized. I've never once had this problem with Vivaldi, and I cannot remember ever having it with Opera. I have had this problem with Sleipnir and Google Chrome. I'm sure the others are right when they say it is simply a Chromium bug.
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They share a code base and are developed by many of the same people… and a bug that has been fixed in Opera after the split shows up in Vivaldi...
I'm using Windows 10 and it occurs 100% of the time the window is maximized. It happens as well on 7 and 8 but I did not do any focused testing so I can't say how often or under what circumstances it is replicable there. Just noticed that it was happening."They share a code base…" This is simply false. There is nothing in common between the code of old Opera and Vivaldi, and the only commonality between new Opera (which also has no code in common with the old Opera) and Vivaldi is Blink.
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"developed by many of the same people…" There were, if I recall, about 100 developers at old Opera. Now there's about 60, it would seem. From people who were once, at some stage of its development, on the old Opera team, it looks as though between three and six of them are on Vivaldi's fifteen (or so) man development team. "Many" of the same people is a quite relative term - add to that the fact that it was never possible to use any of the old Presto-based code on a Blink base, and you have a commonality in personnel which would be, uhmmm, outside of philosophy, possibly, irrelevant.
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On topic, I have on occasion noticed odd taskbar behavior on my Windows tablet while running Vivaldi; basically, whenever Vivaldi was maximized, it would "block" touch input on the taskbar; i.e. windows could not be switched and worst of all, it was impossible to activate the on-screen keyboard from the taskbar, and it would only resolve itself once I Restored the window from maximized. The past few days I haven't run into the problem, though, so it's very arbitrary.
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They share a code base and are developed by many of the same people… and a bug that has been fixed in Opera after the split shows up in Vivaldi...
Humm, nope.
They do share a code base, Chromium. But the "split" you are saying never existed. Jon, the CEO of Vivaldi has left Opera before they went on the madness of dumping Presto and started a Chromium browser. Some of the Vivaldi team also moved away from Opera when they dumped Presto and I just guess few have worked on new Opera if they did. Those who worked on Opera before probably only worked on Presto Opera. And Vivaldi work has started many months before they announced it to the world.
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For those not seeing the bug, are you running in a maximized window?
Ok I was finally able to reproduce the behavior you are talking about.
It affects Opium, Vivaldi, and Opera 11, but not Opera 12.
And, more important, happens just on win 10 (build 10041).
I tried Win 7, Win server 2008, win server 2012r2, win 8.1 and none of them is affected using any of the mentioned browsers.
Which is way different by the scenario you described.
So we are talking about a behavior shown on an unfinished operating system that has it's own oddities and it's own compatibility problems, and that will likely changed again and again until the final release (to say better until the first dozens of fixpacks after the final release).
No offense, but surely the glitches on win 10 should be discussed, but not like you did.
First of all you should made clear that you was talking about win 10, then blaming the developers for a supposedly unfixed bug for years was completely misleading and unfair.
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@RRR13:
Stop insisting on the Windows 10 scenario!
It's a win 10 problem, to be more precise, is a win 10 Build 100xx problem.
A problem that is already solvable, just download "windows tiny borders",, set the border padding from -60 to 0, and reboot.
That's all.
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How can I get in on this fun? How does one auto-hide/show the taskbar in Vivaldi?
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How can I get in on this fun? How does one auto-hide/show the taskbar in Vivaldi?
Fullscreen it. Then, at least in Win8.1 using Classic Shell, the Windows taskbar hides. To reveal it, one presses the window button. To hide it again, one clicks on the Vivaldi interface.
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How can I get in on this fun? How does one auto-hide/show the taskbar in Vivaldi?
It's Windows' taskbar, not a Vivaldi ones.
If you set it to autohide, it stops to automagically slide in, when the cursor is moved close to the edge of the screen.
It's due to the strange padding settings MS uses on latest Win 10 builds, and affects not just vivaldi and not just the taskbar thing.
Try to maximize Vivaldi on win 10 build 10041 and you will see a 4 pixels part of main vivaldi windows hidden, on all directions.
Try even with a windows own window, (say the task manager) try to resize it) and you will see the double ended arrow cursor not centered respect the windows border you are trying to resize.
The side effect on Vivaldi and other programs is the auto hide feature broken..
To say it in two words, while win 8 had an huge border, win 10 build 100xx has a negative one.
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Here you can see what the padding is and how to change it's value w/o opening the registry
As you can see the range for win 8 starts from 0, on win 10 the stock value is **-**60, and that's the problem
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