Portable Version
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Will there be a portable version of the browser?
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There is already one.
Click advanced in the setup and you can choose a portable installation. -
Where it says "Install standalone"?
I did not realize that this will install the portable version. Thanks for the hint, i will give it a try!
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Ok, i understand. Will there be a portable version that runs completely off of a folder?
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Ok, i understand. Will there be a portable version that runs completely off of a folder?
Having the chrome/blink core makes this difficult going by things I've read on portableapps forum
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I am running Vivaldi as portable installation.
This were the steps:
- Download the setup file
- Right click on it and choose "Extract to…" (i am usig 7zip)
- Now extract "vivaldi.7z"
- Start "vivaldi.exe"
But its not really portable. Perhaps there is an folder in Users/AppData
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@Ralf-Brinkmann:
Why don't you simply use the "Extended"-button during installation? Everything is already there.
…because i thought this method would be "portable" and everything is in one folder.
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everything in one folder is very important.
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@tardigrada:
it creates a folder "Vivaldi" with subfolder "Profile" at the place where the standalone installation was originally located
So it works for someone who uses this for a USB installation, right? Off the top of my head I can't imagine a situation where you'd need to move the folder within one system.
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@tardigrada:
it creates a folder "Vivaldi" with subfolder "Profile" at the place where the standalone installation was originally located
So it works for someone who uses this for a USB installation, right? Off the top of my head I can't imagine a situation where you'd need to move the folder within one system.
Except… if the pattern runs true that the path listed in the stp.viv file identifies where Vivaldi goes, an entry like: f:\Programs\vivaldi1 (written to a flash stick on a system that assigned the f: term because that was the first available drive slot when the flash stick was plugged in for the Vivaldi install) may have some issues when later plugged into another system where the first available drive term for the flash stick may be e:
I haven't experimented yet with this either, though if the drive letter is hard-written to the installation's file, it must matter somewhere to Vivaldi. That seems likely to cause an issue if a flash stick is later inserted as a different drive letter.
Perhaps the issue is that a stand-alone install is not necessarily a portable install.
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@tardigrada:
That's exactly the point.
You can change the path in the "stp.viv" file from whatever it is to ".." (without quote marks of course). That's a nice workaround I've recently found for this portability problem.
BTW, what else should be a "standalone-install" than a "portable install"?
Indeed.
A portabe install must have relative paths, "by design" or can't be called portable.
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@tardigrada:
… BTW, what else should be a "standalone-install" than a "portable install"?
I've long used stand-alone installs of old Opera (and now Vivaldi) on a multi-user-account system simply for its compactness and… uhmm... stand-alone-ness (ie: separateness from the OS). On such a system (aimed mainly at a single user), all the user accounts have access both to the browser via shortcuts and to its single, commonly-held data-set without separate user account file-sets being scattered all over the hard drive. It makes rapid and frequent data backups much easier. Likewise, it puts far fewer (if any) hooks into the OS by being a stand-alone install. But such an install is hardly portable, since it's on the main hard drive, not a flash stick. A stand-alone program is usually blissfully unaware of other stand-alone versions of the same software on the same system, if that becomes desirable (which it was with old Opera) for comparisons.
Quite frankly, if I could do it with everything else on the system, they'd nearly all be stand-alone as well. Multiple user accounts in such a single-user case are mainly useful for compartmentalizing data file access and limiting system damage in the case of external compromise. Granted, on shared systems where different users access different accounts, the situation is different. Likewise, certain default aspects of the system may not be available, since a stand-alone install is not intimately linked into the OS (or at least, not nearly so) as compared with a fully integrated install.
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@tardigrada:
Thus I still can't think of any difference between "standalone" and "portable". Or did I misunderstand your concept?
Standalone means no shared library or other files needed by the program stored in the system directory.
Portable means ALSO that the paths are relative and not absolute.
A portable install is also stand alone.
A stand alone install is not necessarily portable.
A small difference that can lead to use both the terms interchangeably, while they aren't
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'Portable' inherently means capable of being carried elsewhere and still retain its functionality. In other words, a portable app is a program that can be fully run on any compatible computer/OS without having to be modified for that computer or require that computer's configuration to be modified before being able to be run. It can be placed on any storage medium: USB flash, hard drive, floppy drive, external mass storage drive, etc.
'Standalone' can mean several things, among which is included a 'portable' app. But it also can refer to a program not needing OS services to run, a program that is run as a separate process (not an add-on of an existing process), or a program that can be run without a network connection.
The key is that if an app internally carries something that ties it to a particular computer or computer configuration, it is technically no longer fully portable, though it might still be a standalone app that doesn't need OS services to run. By that understanding, Vivaldi's standalone install option is currently not truly portable (because it requires a computer's file configuration to match Vivaldi's stored path/drive nomenclature, saved at the time of initial creation/'installation'), but it is stand-alone.
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Anyhow, I'm another one who really more or less wants or needs a portable / USB installation.
I want to have multiple not-in-any-way related to each other browser on my computer for different purposes.
I want it to be easily backed up by just zipping / copying the browser installed folder. I always do this with the old Opera also before any updates etc.
Also naturally that is it easily moved to another computer.Now I already can extract and use the browser without running the installation, but still all user stuff is located under %userprofile%\appdata, so simply being able to decide where these are saved would be enough.
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If you want a portable version at some point then use the link below as this site has put all the Vivaldi's online so far as portables:
http://portableappz.blogspot.co.uk/
Of course it is always better to use a browser from the original website in case something has been added that could be spying on your passwords etc. If you just want to try out Vivaldi then try the link I provided, if you want to use it with your passwords etc then the decision is all yours.
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The différence is that in opera presto, when you choose usb or stand-alone installation, you can take that opera folder anywhere and opera will work and keep all your settings. With Vivaldi, the browser will work but it can't find your settings. It will operate like a clean install.
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FWIW, there are at least 3 files in my Vivaldi Windows stand-alone installation that carry internal path names related to the system on which it was installed as 'stand-alone'. As to what these paths relate to or control, and what might happen if the browser files were used as-is on a different system, it would take some experimentation to determine. (Also note that Chrome-legacy browsers which use the system's encryption facilities for encrypting passwords may also be locked to one specific system for retrieval purposes - I don't know where Vivaldi may stand on this.)
"stp.viv" in *>Vivaldi1>Application
"Secure Preferences" in *>Vivaldi1>Profile>Default
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