Freeze? enter quick command field
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The screen display of Vivaldi is fixed(freeze) when I input a letter into a quick command field. *It occurs in first one character.
Nothing is updated, and the screen of Vivaldi maintains a displayed state last.
I can't close a window without opening the menus.
The speed dial (and so on) from an Explorer bar(right click) is possible, but the screen doesn't change. In addition, I can close a window from there.1.6.689.40 (Stable channel) (64bit) Windows10(1607)
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@dLeon I also have this issue, I'll try with your method.
I don't think I have all that many bookmarks, they are not small neither, but nothing that ginormous. :3 -
@dLeon said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
Yes that happen. You have a lot of bookmarks?
I just counted the number of bookmark. The number of bookmark was 130. Are there many these?
It's for Mac, and a quick command doesn't seem to be usable either. The behavior like a Windows version. The Mac version bookmarks was 250.
When it is for Mac, I'm not usable for a while, but a window disappears when it passes for a while. I can continue use when I open the new window because Vivaldi doesn't finish(crash). -
I updated ver.1.7.
The quick command tool has completely died... Vivaldi will crash. -
I crashed several times and restarted Vivaldi, but now it does not crash.
I crashed the moment I pressed the F2 key or the moment I selected the tool from the menu.
The Quick Tool Command is the same as Ver. 1.6 and it seems that nothing has been improved.
Freeze with the second letter input. -
The resize of the window is possible at time of this state. Vivaldi seems to crash when I resize a window. I just discovered this method. I terminated it from a task manager before or was closed from an Explorer bar.
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@izacks I'm on 1.7.735.46 (Stable channel) (32-bit) and Vivaldi didn't crash or freeze when using quick commands or when resizing windows. I have 250+ bookmarks and the quick commands menu works fast & smoothly here.
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@pafflick Uninstall Vivaldi from the Windows control panel. appdata/Local/Vivaldi folder (configuration file) is deleted manually. Delete registry. Then restart Windows and reinstall Vivaldi. It certainly seems to work smoothly without a bookmark. Importing bookmarks will freeze. Quick Command Tool seems to be influenced by the number of bookmarks registered after all.
The Mac version doesn't seem to freeze or crash. However, it takes from 30 seconds to 1 minute for characters to be entered and completed. Mac version has more bookmark registrations than Windows version.
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@izacks I use only standalone installations of Vivaldi and I just tried importing all my bookmarks to a fresh installation of Vivaldi and it took about one second to import them all and after trying the quick commands menu it works just as smoothly as it worked before. I haven't noticed any slow-down of the browser whatsoever.
I'm not sure what's causing the slow-down for you. That's odd considering the fact that I have almost as twice as many bookmarks as you and yet it works flawlessly here. Usually there are different possible reasons for such issues: it might be something with your machine configuration, some software bug, a corrupted file system on the hard drive, some missing files or libraries, broken or incompatible extensions/plugins, corrupted user data files, wrong permission settings etc. Perhaps there is something wrong with your bookmarks file?
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I may have found one of the problems avoidance.
I emptied the trash (deleted bookmark) in the bookmark, I can use the quick command without problems.
The Mac version was also the same. -
A poster in the thread for the latest snapshot (where this problem isn't fixed, just to be clear) recommended that Vivaldi let us exclude bookmarks from Quick Commands to work around the problem.
This makes a lot of sense to me since I'm puzzled why anyone would go there for bookmarks in the first place. If you want to search for bookmarks, there's an address bar and a sidebar, neither of which, come to think of it, has this bottleneck.
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@rseiler said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
This makes a lot of sense to me since I'm puzzled why anyone would go there for bookmarks in the first place. If you want to search for bookmarks, there's an address bar and a sidebar, neither of which, come to think of it, has this bottleneck.
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. The bookmark panel is dedicated to bookmarks and processes searches very quickly. I wonder why Quick Search chokes on them? For me the bookmarks are surely the problem because when I rename my bookmark file and run Vivaldi searching in Quick Search is fast even though I have history set to a long time. I hope this can get sorted out because QS is a nice feature.
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@rseiler I use quick commands to open new tabs with bookmarked pages using their nicknames. It's way much faster than using the address bar, not to mention the bookmarks panel, which requires even more clicks/key presses. But as I said before, I have absolutely no lag when using the quick commands menu and thus for me it's the most convenient tool for reaching out to my bookmarks.
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@pafflick I didn't realize they only worked there and not the bookmarks panel, but how does getting to the bookmarks panel require more key presses than getting to Quick Commands?
If you don't show a slowdown in Quick Commands, you just don't have enough bookmarks to have made it over the threshold. Import some more.
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@rseiler said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
I didn't realize they only worked there and not the bookmarks panel, but how does getting to the bookmarks panel require more key presses than getting to Quick Commands?
I haven't said anything about something not working in the bookmarks panel, but here you go with the "required clicks/key presses" comparison:
Bookmarks Panel:
- Open the panel (
[F6]
); - Focus the search input in order to find the bookmark by its nickname (I just tried that and it doesn't even work, but let's assume it does) or search for it manually;
- Go to the bookmark;
- Close the panel.
Quick Commands:
- Open the menu (
[F2]
); - Type in the bookmark's nickname. That's it.
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@rseiler said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
If you don't show a slowdown in Quick Commands, you just don't have enough bookmarks to have made it over the threshold. Import some more.
I just tried it with 1100-1200 bookmarks and the delay (while typing) increased to about 200-500 ms at few points (which is still barely noticeable), but nothing froze whatsoever. But why should I have more bookmarks if I don't need that many in the first place?
- Open the panel (
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@pafflick It's not a permanent freeze but a very noticeable lag as you see the CPU spike. It's not just once, either. If you change the query, hit Backspace, whatever, it continues. I don't know why yours is only a half-second.
I suggested that you do this to learn more about why this is happening for the rest of us. Perhaps there's some other variable, but bookmarks are definitely involved. I don't really know what the threshold is since I don't know of a place where Vivaldi provides an overall count.
If they can be made optional in Quick Commands it would work around it. I imagine using bookmark shortcuts in Quick Commands is pretty niche anyway (surely most people just start typing in the address bar, where sites tend to appear very quickly with no need for a shortcut), but optional would serve both sides.
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@rseiler said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
but bookmarks are definitely involved.
They surely are. I proved it to myself with my test (below). I'm confident the issue is how many bookmarks before the problem occurs. People with more than n bookmarks will have the issue.
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@rseiler For sure it depends on the total amount of bookmarks you have AND the performance capabilities of your machine (CPU & hard disk - SSD or HDD - are the most notable factors here). Basically, you're asking for more configuration options - which will (& should) come anyway because everyone has different needs. For some people excluding bookmarks from the QC menu would improve the overall performance of the browser. For me, it would be a deal-breaker, since I don't need (currently) more than 300 bookmarks and even if I needed triple as many, I would be still able to use the QC flawlessly on my PC.
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I had the same problems in the beginning. I removed my imported bookmarks, almost all of them, apart from a few I really needed, and that solved everything for me. It may seem like you have just a few bookmarks, but if you are a browser-switcher like me, bookmarks hide deep in subfolders everywhere and it's best to clean house. Is this optimal? No, of course not, we should be able to use quick commands with a lot of bookmarks, but it isn't the biggest problem. Who uses bookmarks in 2017 anyway? Much faster to do a search with quick commands or search bar. Delete your bookmarks and use it.
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@Werkaster said in Freeze? enter quick command field:
Who uses bookmarks in 2017 anyway?
Lots of people.