Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?

[Toontje]

@Catweazle Oder Android zu verwenden... Oder gleich jeder website mit Google tools zu besuchen...

[Zalex108]

@Catweazle @Toontje

Please,
Back to English.

Thx

[Catweazle]

@Toontje, yes, Android is really a problem (although iOS isn't much better either, just more expensive). That's why I never have important data in my cell phone and only use it for what is absolutely necessary. I prefer everything else from the PC, it's more convenient for me and I also have more options to turn off the tap for those who are too curious.

@Zalex108, sorry, an lapsus, edited.

[eskaigarcia]

@7twenty said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:

I'd be curious to know your ideas on what, how you would change things.

Went back to this because I has some free time and ended up moving things around trying to make something I think looks clean. I'm pretty sure one can find a thousand problems to it, but I feel like I'd happily use a modded version of Vivaldi that looked like this:

[chenyf]

100%
Many people switched to Arc for this reason. Compared to even Firefox/Chrome/Edge, the subtle details in Vivaldi's UI seem less well designed, and feels more like a hacked together solution for friends. For example, I like the Vivaldi's window panel a lot, but compared to Arc's side panel, there's almost a 10-year gap.

[RiveDroite]

@chenyf

I'm not trying to argue, but I don't think there's anything more than anecdotal evidence that anyone switched to Arc.

I tried out Arc and came right back to Vivaldi.

I'm sure there were some people who switched to Arc, just like people switch to any other browser for various reasons.

I don't find Vivaldi's UI to be dated at all.

[chenyf]

@RiveDroite
Thank you for the reply. I actually am curious about how the forum works as a communication channel between users and Vivaldi. Do ambassadors like you work within the Vivaldi teams? I ask because as users, we come here to provide feedbacks and opinions and hope some of the concerns can be picked up, but more often we end up discussing "evidences" with ambassadors, and it becomes an "attack Vivaldi", "defending Vivaldi" thing, which is very strange. Have you heard of a thing called "饭圈文化“? I certainly hope Vivaldi doesn't become something like that.

"How dare you say that? Do you know how hard working Vivaldi is?"

[RiveDroite]

@chenyf Ambassadors are nothing more than users who volunteer.

To be clear, I wasn't trying to downplay anything, I was more just curious where this idea that many people switched to Arc came from?

[chenyf]

@RiveDroite Based on what I see from people around me. But hold on, let me get some statistics and write a paper about it.

[7twenty]

@eskaigarcia said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:

Went back to this because I has some free time and ended up moving things around trying to make something I think looks clean. I'm pretty sure one can find a thousand problems to it,

Interesting concept. But... where would you have extensions? Zoom controls if enabled?

Having the show/hide panel icon on the panel toolbar won't work if it's closed, so you need to use a keyboard shortcut to open it.

Otherwise 80% of that is doable just using the built-in options. Only thing that would need some work is the workspaces as separate icons, the tab bar moving below the navigation bar, and adding icons to the tab bar.

If you're happy with a right side tab bar, then it's 90% there except for the two extra icons you want on it.

[SaguaroBoxer]

New user here, and I agree. I had to hide a bunch of things to turn Vivaldi into what I wanted, and it's still not as attractive to me as Chrome/Brave.

With different defaults I think Vivaldi would snag people who are getting fed up with Google.

I wish the default UI looked like Chrome from before its UI started to bloat (maybe 8 years ago?).

[mib2berlin]

@SaguaroBoxer
Hi, there are so many ways to customize Vivaldi, you can make it look as you like.
The right is the default, except of the colors.

Do you like Opera GX?

The Brave default is OK but you cant change anything if you don't like it.
Please check the Vivaldi themes page for a start:
https://themes.vivaldi.net/browse?s=chrome

Welcome to the forum, mib

[Ayespy]

@SaguaroBoxer Hmm. Never liked the Chrome UI, new or old. I mean, never. I never understood why they seemed to make such poor UI choices, and why anyone liked them. In fact, I don't like the UI of any browser, except Vivaldi the way I have it set up for me. One thing other browsers don't do is allow you to make the UI your own.

For me, "dated" is a basically meaningless term. To everyone, "new" and "old" as applied to a collection of lines, spaces and icons mean something different to everyone. You can create an impression of "old" by using all of the elements of a browser from 20 years ago, because people will recall that was something from "then," not now.

Otherwise, Vivaldi does not remind me of anything from the last 30 years, nor make me thing of anything futuristic.

[Ayespy]

@mib2berlin said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:

Do you like Opera GX?

Actually, hate it. But thanks for asking.

[SaguaroBoxer]

@mib2berlin I saw that, thanks! I can make Vivaldi work for me, but probably won't recommend it to my parents.

[mib2berlin]

@Ayespy
I asked @SaguaroBoxer, just to show what is possible in Vivaldi.
Remember screen shots of your UI and icons, horrible.

[ThePfromtheO]

@7twenty Both the "Sync" and "Trash" buttons, but especially the "Trash" one, are indispensable for me! I can access my recently closed tabs much faster.

[ThePfromtheO]

@Catweazle said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:

Of course, you can't prevent searching with Google or using Gmail..

You can: There are many other replacements!

[ThePfromtheO]

@eskaigarcia Maybe, a little, especially its buttons(they look a bit as of the first browsers or so)...
But that can be solved, as everyone knows! This is mainly what made me move from Brave to it, plus its extra features.
Vivaldi is indeed "Powerful. Personal. Private", while Brave is only "Powerful. Personal. Private"

[Catweazle]

@ThePfromtheO, without a doubt*, but it can't prevent that the user search with Google and/or use other Gogle services,

• I find what I search for, without Google, Bing or other filter bubble big company crap.