How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?
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@RasheedHolland, why not enough when Vivaldi with described settings blocks 100% of ads and trackers, and even skips cookie advices? Power user?
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@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
@RasheedHolland, why not enough when Vivaldi with described settings blocks 100% of ads and trackers, and even skips cookie advices? Power user?
The problem is that sometimes when stuff is broken on a website, you need to allow certain scripts. Same goes for when annoying stuff isn't blocked, then you need to either block certain scripts, or you use the element picker. So these features are crucial, I don't understand why this stuff isn't present in uBlock Lite. Perhaps because of the limitations of MV3, or perhaps the developer wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
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@RasheedHolland, if you want an element picker, there is an script (86,6 KB) which you can install direct as extension. It's somewhat older but works fine as it should. I used it in the past, but desinstalled because I never really needed to use it. With it you can delete any annoying parts of an page, temporal or permanent, with an click.
Download the script and drag it on the Vivaldi extensions page in dev mode to install it.
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@Catweazle Since that's ancient, and since Adguard supports what he's talking about, I think that would be the better choice.
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@rseiler, yes, AdGuard is Mv3, like also uBOL, the block ads, but not so sure if they do it also with trackers, because it is most what is Googles business model. In tests, in adblocking and trackerblocking, the Vivaldi blocker has way better results as, at least, uBOL, except the anti adblock spoofing.
Necause of this, I don't not longer trust the Chrome Store in Privacy related extensions abd think that Vivaldi need to be with own functions mostly independient of the Chrome Store.
I think that Vivaldi with its ibuild blocker is on the right way, but they is still room of improvement. In other extensions currently show that most extensions in the Chrome Store are already redundant in Vivaldi because of its inbuild features.With AdGuard I see only the way of the desktop app, not the extension, but it is paid proprietary soft and only offers a 14 day free trial.
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@Catweazle Fodder to think about in the coming months, that's for sure. For anyone curious, this is what it uses (in the case of tracking, it appears to be a hybrid approach):
https://adguard.com/kb/general/ad-filtering/adguard-filters
I'm more concerned about their ongoing battle with Google to try to get them to accept some method of allowing them to update filters between updating the extension itself. They were winning that battle for a while, but right now, for instance, here are the last update dates:
Base filter: Feb 27
Tracking: Mar 4
Social: Mar 4
Annoyances: Mar 4
Security: Mar 5Without solving that, it's a no-go. The Windows proxy version wouldn't have that problem.
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Said:
AdGuard is Mv3, like also uBOL, the block ads, but not so sure if they do it also with trackers…..
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here are the last update dates:
Base filter: Feb 27
Tracking: Mar 4
Social: Mar 4
Annoyances: Mar 4
Security: Mar 5
Without solving that, it's a no-go.
Giving those dates is as ridiculous, if not more so, as when users claim that Vivaldi is not on the same version as Chrome, and are therefore grossly and horribly exposed.
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@barbudo2005 I didn't know that updated filters were irrelevant. One less thing to worry about! (In case it's unclear, this is sarcasm.)
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@m-e said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
I hated it how Firefox treated their add on community
You mean like when they switch to the one extension engine and broke well over half of all Firefox compatible extensions because they dropped the BOMB and told no one before hand?
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@barbudo2005, Vivaldi isn't certainly on the same Chrome version, except for the security patches, because the Vivaldi team can't release a new version at the same day as a new Chromium release, it need a lot of work before, way more as only patching the Vivaldi logo on Chromium as is. But also far away from outdated and insecure.
https://yngve.vivaldi.net/sooo-you-say-you-want-to-maintain-a-chromium-fork/
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Take care of this post, so you don't keep disqualifying uBOL or Adguard gratuitously, things that only come out of your imagination.
AdGuard is Mv3, like also uBOL, the block ads, but not so sure if they do it also with trackers…..
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The Gorhill's opinion about those sites that measure the efficiency of adblockers:
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@barbudo2005, I never said anything against uBO, but Mv3 uBOL respect tracking.
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Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?
How do you plan to continue releasing updates for the browser, if, soon, there will be a transition to extensions for Chrome (Chromium) on Manifest V3? -
@kirill1996 said in Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?:
Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?
How do you plan to continue releasing updates for the browser, if, soon, there will be a transition to extensions for Chrome (Chromium) on Manifest V3?Please see https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/93057/how-will-vivaldi-deal-with-google-s-manifest-v3/
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@kirill1996 End is in June 2025.
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@DoctorG said in Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?:
There is no chance to extend this for Vivaldi dev team.
Brave said they would support it.
Why can't they copy code from Github to Vivaldi, yours? -
@kirill1996 said in Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?:
Brave said they would support it.
Why can't they copy code from Github to Vivaldi, yours?I have no knowledge why this can not be added.
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@DoctorG said in Manifest V2 in Vivaldi, when does it stop working?:
@kirill1996 End is in June 2025.
There is no chance to extend this for Vivaldi dev team.I'm sorry, but this sounds a bit misleading. Of course there is a chance that Vivaldi could extend support for MV2, similar to Brave, Opera and Firefox. The question is, do they WANT to do this or not?
