Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?
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Hello,
I hate all Chromium-based browsers; of them, I hate Vivaldi the least. Waterfox classic is being blocked from websites; because having the choice of two browsers, Chrome or Edge [powered by Chromium] worked so well in the late nineties.
Chrome itself has almost no features I need to reliably use the internet. I realise it's unlikely, but if anyone has experience in making Vivaldi a similar workhorse browser, I would be incredibly grateful.
Don't worry if it's impossible - I recognise full well that the real 'option' is just to use Chrome, as Vivaldi will probably be edged out next.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, maybe we’ll be able to help you if you ask specific questions. Not only that there’re people like me who don’t remember old (or new, for that matter) FF, there are likely some things that you don’t need to get back exactly the same.
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I didn't ask specific questions because - there's so much I want to do, while knowing in my heart that it's impossible, hmn... It's half a vent, half resignation.
Some of these (or rather, their chromium equivalent) are available out of the gate. Others, like session manager, there simply isn't a good mirror of (on chromium). I feel like I could probably just - close with all the tabs I want to open next time, every time I quit, but that feels - fairly awful, too.
I'm just in a state of mourning, in multiple ways.
But thanks for caring - it's appreciated.Edit: I'm proficient enough to know what I want; and I'm unintelligent enough to know that I can't make it happen. A lot of the old web I love so much is just being - ground down, and it feels like nobody cares, because nobody does.
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@anodyne unsure what you are looking for. Vivaldi's strong suits are that it is feature rich out of the box and highly customizable.
Sessions are available from the Vivaldi menu, if that is what you are missing. What is wrong with closing the browser and upon startup finding all the tabs you had open?
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@WildEnte; Unrealistic things; I want a specific browser - firefox, pre-proton - to exist, knowing that my profile and bookmarks and all the old sites that are dead outside of the wayback machine will live again, somehow. I don't want to spend another couple of weeks fighting trying to move my waterfox profile over, only to find out that most bookmarks didn't transfer. Learning that the hundreds of scripts I've applied don't work, and narrowing down which ones to prune, again.
No part of me wants to re-learn a browser that'll probably die in a few years, or months, or weeks, so that I can relearn another again.
I want to keep my flash support; I don't want to hear about how it's a security risk from the guy who always remains logged in to every site that doesn't time him out (and who I've regularly done tech support for).
Edited to add that nothing is wrong with closing a browser that has however many tabs open; I liked to save various work-related themes of tabs, basically a brace of related bookmarks that didn't clutter up said bookmarks and I didn't have to open one at a time.
It was nice, so it couldn't exist.
Despite my username, I shouldn't have been so abrasive.
Sorry about that.I'll live.
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@anodyne nothing abrasive about your posts, and since quite many folks in this community come from Opera 12, you wouldn't believe how much sympathy you have for how you feel about a system you tailored to your needs going down the drain. (apart from flash...).
So good luck and if there is sth we can help to (con) figure to make Vivaldi work for you, just ask.
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@WildEnte That means an incredible amount. (Even with the side-note about flash, snrrrk!) I'll - try. I guess I'll ask one thing for now, is Vivaldi likely to be able to support most banks/e-commerce to the near future? That's probably the most important 'realistic' goal, and what finally indicates to me that Waterfox classic is probably a dead-end at this point.
Also - if there's an easier way to mass-copy a waterfox profile over, bookmarks at least, I'd surely be grateful for that.
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@anodyne said in Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?:
Unrealistic things; I want a specific browser - firefox, pre-proton - to exist, knowing that my profile and bookmarks and all the old sites that are dead outside of the wayback machine will live again, somehow. I don't want to spend another couple of weeks fighting trying to move my waterfox profile over, only to find out that most bookmarks didn't transfer. Learning that the hundreds of scripts I've applied don't work, and narrowing down which ones to prune, again.
I think I see what you mean. Unfortunately, people make changes, be it just for the sake of a change, or for they think it makes things better.
I modified Vivaldi quite a bit to make it better suit my taste – but then they redesigned the UI & rewrote code, my mods broke & I’m too lazy to fix them again. I am still using Vivaldi, because it is what I am used to now and because switching requires some work, too.
https://i.imgur.com/3NxOyx9.png –
tabs, bookmarksWhat specifically, again?
no-script, session manager
These are built into Vivaldi, unless there’s some important functionality missing.
stylish
Malware. Stylus is for both FF & Chromium-based browsers.
u-block origin
Available for Chromium-based browsers as well (til it gets killed off by manifest v3, yay).
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@anodyne said in Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?:
bookmarks at least
Vivaldi can import bookmarks from Firefox (I don't know about Waterfox); but
if that fails, you can export those bookmarks to a html file which can be imported into Vivaldi. (see menu "File/Import from Applications or Files"). -
@potmeklecbohdan Thank you, again, for your time. Funnily enough, I even have Stylus installed over Stylish; but I started with the other, ages ago and it's what my brain always recalls, for whatever reason. My job requires me to constantly be adapting to new rules and regulations, so I guess I just want the browser I use in my own time to feel like an island.
Also...
Available for Chromium-based browsers as well (til it gets killed off by manifest v3, yay).
I don't even have the energy to shout, anymore. It's gonna be... something, huh... At least I can express some mirror sympathy, here - also about your mods or personally-written extensions. I'm sorry. I wish things didn't suck so much.
@TbGbe This is unrelated to anything, but I love your avatar. More importantly, oh, that's great news! I didn't realise Vivaldi recognised exported lists, does it recognise nesting/toolbar bookmarks, too?! Uh, as an example I've a folder called 'Old Dead Junk' which is stuff that I figure nobody else cares for, a subset of which is 'Archaic Mac Treasures' which is largely my attempt to catalogue old mac shareware, lost to time. If the structure'd be preserved, that'd be fantastic.
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@anodyne said in Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?:
nesting/toolbar bookmarks
I haven't done that, so can't be absolutely sure.
However, you could test it in 10 minutes
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@anodyne said in Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?:
is Vivaldi likely to be able to support most banks/e-commerce to the near future
As you know Vivaldi is a Chromium browser. If it works in Chrome it should work in Vivaldi. If it doesn't work it's usually ad blocking or some extension breaking things and you need to make site specific exceptions, or an anti virus scanner that thinks getting in the way is what you want it to do.
You can always try out if it works in a guest profile without ad blocking. If it does, check your extensions etc and ask here for help with the URL that gives you trouble and people will try to reproduce the problem
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@anodyne said in Making Vivaldi work like waterfox classic/firefox pre-proton?:
Waterfox classic is being blocked from websites
I've never used Waterfox (classic or otherwise). But have you tried changing the user-agent?
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