Heart Of Gold 💛 🚀 🐋 🌺

Stardust

Famous companies are totally wrong...

Please don't mention V-SS
I love my cute black icon!

A Former User

@code3 said in Why does the newsletter contain tracking pixels?:

Why exactly did you leave V? I’m very curious.

(The amount of OT I create is getting near to the amount of OT by someone else :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:)

Because I hate those ‘this browser is the best, it has a lot of features that no other has’ [but when someone copies them, they are often done better]. Luakit only describes what it is, & does so only as little as needed.
Because I don’t need most of the features.
Because it offers too little customisation, & there’s too many breaking changes that we have to reverse-engineer again. Luakit is harder to customise from the beginning (getting easier when you’d use JS mods in Vivaldi), but you can do almost anything. (I must admit I haven’t done much yet, as I have other work to do.)
Because the redesign of panels pushed me over the edge (I was just too lazy to fix the mods, heh)

What I like about Luakit although it wasn’t the reason for the switch:

I can use the keyboard much better (though sometimes it is a shock to realise that I’m not in insert mode)
It has support for usercss OOTB.
- Btw., thanks to it not supporting extensions I now have the web themed much more consistently, as I had to switch from Dark Reader to base16-everywhere.

But

I must admit that using the devtools is a pain, because those of WK2Gtk are not as good as those of Cr, & LK doesn’t detect when I click a text field there.
So far I haven’t found a way to switch theme on the fly, which is a problem when most of the desktop can (except for LK, waybar, swaybg, stalonetray & dzen2, of which only LK cannot be simply restarted w/o reloading all the heavy web pages)

Stardust

@potmeklecbohdan

So how is your Luakit Browser looks like?

A Former User

@Stardust There’s little to see, like it was with my last V setup.

my start page (no, it ain’t built-in)

& to show off base16-everywhere, coz I simply love that usercss (no, it ain’t built-in); & the follow-link feature (yes, it is built-in, but I haven’t fixed base16-everywhere to work well with it yet)

Ayespy

@potmeklecbohdan Interesting. Your aesthetic sense and mine could not be more different.

A Former User

@Ayespy There’s little aestethic in the screenshots

luakit interface only has the functions it needs, no design/aestethic
almost the same for the start page (which I use only with the keyboard like fv for Vivaldi forum, fgl for GitLab etc)
base16-everywhere just forces colours & doesn’t ask about what the site used the elements for, so there’s little aestethic as well

But I must admit it’s more efficient this way.

Ayespy

@potmeklecbohdan I understand. But I literally am repelled by the interface. So you find it tolerable, I do not. Different aesthetic sense.

hlehyaric

@guigirl said in Heart Of Gold :

Wrt "amount of OT I create is getting near to the amount of OT by someone else", i think it's most mean of you to pick on @k**** so much. All they desperately want to know is when it's time to eat their lunch in the stable.

Exactly what I think but I didn't dare to write it down.

code3

@potmeklecbohdan It is utterly horrifying....

I see your point, but I must be missing something, because I simply can not understand how the numbers everywhere can be appealing to look at.

(I apologize in advance.)

Catweazle

At least I prefer to complicate the life of the browser more than mine, but everyone there.

Stardust

@code3 said in Heart Of Gold :

I see your point, but I must be missing something, because I simply can not understand how the numbers everywhere can be appealing to look at.

It's simple, if you want to reply, think about number 272

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A Former User

@guigirl said in Heart Of Gold :

1. Wrt "amount of OT I create is getting near to the amount of OT by someone else", i think it's most mean of you to pick on @k**** so much. All they desperately want to know is when it's time to eat their lunch in the stable.

It’s not my fault that you guess wrongly :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

2. Not that i've ever doubted it, but most especially now, i feel so comprehensively amazed at how you play in a league so extremely far above me. Really it now amazes me that we ever even crossed paths.

I just focus on one thing more instead of focusing on many things less; that’s what might make it appear ‘far above’. & there isn’t so much surprise if you consider other facts, like the OS family we are both using.

3. I suspect this is dumb to ask, but ... your new browser still actually renders graphics on "normal" https pages, doesn't it?

The question missed me. Is the emphasis on graphics, on normal, or on pages? (Plus I have no idea what an https page is . HTTPS is a transfer protocol IIRC.)

That's not a sarcastic bunch of words, i'm genuinely uncertain, given the whole UI seems so utterly spartan to me... & though they were talking about a different browser whose name now escapes me, several months ago i saw some forum chat in the ArchLabs forum between some members there about "best browser", & several of them began swooning about the whateveritwascalled browser which had to be basically hand-built, & thence gave only text output. Initially i thought they were all just making some shared joke, but after a while i decided they were actually serious. I felt horrified.

Me needs it! …actually, I can’t see myself using it in the near future, but do you by chance remember something that could help me find the thread?

A Former User

@code3 said in Heart Of Gold :

I see your point, but I must be missing something, because I simply can not understand how the numbers everywhere can be appealing to look at.

They are there just when I need to follow a link / click a button etc with the keyboard. Thanks to them I can do so by simply looking at the relevant element’s number & writing it.

A Former User

@guigirl Oh, I didn’t expect that you would read more than what was needed to identify the thread (if at all reading any thread), thanks!

& actually, it’s a nice collection of browsers (nyxt is my next favourite).

Ornorm

@potmeklecbohdan said in Heart Of Gold :

It has support for usercss OOTB

Yes, ok, really nice but...
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Do they have a forum where OT is allowed?

A Former User

@Ornorm I can stay here for that.

A Former User

Some random Nightlier said in Heart Of Gold :

@potmeklecbohdan Oh i find it massively inappropriate that peeps can be here despite now using a non-V browser. Tis simply shocking... :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:

A Former User

@guigirl I was hoping to finally have a moment for plugging in all the simple protocols in kiwmi , but now I have to be studying how the situation around Servo is these days

(PS: sorry about the higher concentration of emojis, I’m enjoying that I finally can use rofimoji in kiwmi )

Edit: Oh, shut up Mozilla; I know why I don’t want to use your browser.

npro

@guigirl

Another one bites the dust

Exactly. But that's not the full quote, I edited the post a bit (it's been 5 years, not 4, 2016 I ditched Firefox when Vivaldi was in a better shape to be used as the main browser) and added this

"It pains me returning to the point I was when Chropera abandoned me, but times do change (for the worst) and in my book privacy comes first, then features. And Firefox has improved a lot compared to what it was back then."

Vivaldi was really unfortunate falling in that transitional period of Firefox's code rewriting, and one can say Chromium code was (and maybe still is) more clean and efficient so they would have chosen it anyway, but unless Vivaldi seriously improves in the privacy department in these dark (goo-gel) times they are going to lose even more privacy-sensitive people.

npro

@guigirl I've tried brow.sh in the past, it was quite limited and a bit broken I think (not more than elinks nevertheless which had its problems with other languages) , but maybe it has improved now. nyxt looks quite nice! Never heard of it before.