Browser plugins

CJLP

Dr.Flay, were you able to get Ghostery working?

I ask because I'm using the latest snapshot for 64-bit Windows, and I've not had any luck. The ghostery icon doesn't appear and there's no indication that it's blocking any trackers.

olli

We dont have support for showing extensions icon in the toolbar yet, it´s on our todo list and will be added

TZO2K15

Thanks for the links!

Dr.Flay

Sorry CJLP, I have actually held back from adding any plugins to Vivaldi until it is fully supported.
Until the devs give the OK. I consider adding any extras unreliable, and will make most bug reporting potentially invalid.
Plugins can have unexpected results, and by their nature change the browser, and at this point Vivaldi has cough several unexpected results of its own :whistle: .
…basically I don't want them to waste any time that could be spent on the browser while it is still an Alpha.

Ayespy

Plugins and extensions are actually very different things, and should not be conflated with each other. The terms are not interchangeable, and each actually works quite differently and does a different job from the other.

http://colonelpanic.net/2010/08/browser-plugins-vs-extensions-the-difference/

Dr.Flay

Thanks for pointing it out, but I do understand the difference between the usage of these 2, and from a general point of view;
Plugins run on demand, extensions are already running.
I consider anything extra to be added on, plugged in, plugged on, inserted, attached or extended.
An extension is a specific type of plugin, same as Viruses are a specific type of malware.
"Venn diagrams"

I have not installed any extras of any kind what so ever. Flash and WebGL just hammer my CPU, so I use other browsers that don't.
Most of the extensions I will be using will radically change the behaviour of the browser, either blocking its own behaviour or replacing the browsers own functions with something else, and most of the addons I require do not work at all, or in any useful way (I need Unity3D more than Flash, and tracker module playback more than OGG and MP4 etc.)
When I can rely on it, I will be replacing the Vivaldi video decoding with VLC if still possible as a plugin rather than extension (VLC can be used as either an extension or a plugin, but with different focus.)
I would prefer something built from the modern branches of Gabest MPC filters, as I prefer the small size, speed and the fact that it gives XP the HW decoding that nobody else can.

Ultimately I hope to change the browser as much as possible to suit my needs, but until it is stable I am keeping it vanilla.
No matter how good it is, it will never be quite what I want, as many of the features I want would be better as core code.
eg. I want my browser to optionally only use DNSSEC and wait for at least 3 or 4 DNS to agree before allowing access to a domain.
Same as the system for certificate validation as used with "Perspectives". It replaces, masks or interferes with the browsers own security and is guaranteed to cause confusion at some point.
This is why these things need to be built in from ground level, and are a known factor for the devs.

Good to point out there is a practical difference, but from my point of view at the moment, they may as well be the same.

Dr.Flay

OK. Update time again.
Not much change other that some updated URLs, a slight reorganising, and added a few more AV extensions.
Oh yeah, and now I have flagged those that I know will work in Vivaldi with a (V).

To be honest, considering Chrome launches another Chrome for each extension, you really want to keep it as lean as possible.
I currently have 3 tabs open and there are 13 instances of Vivaldi loaded.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
Using extensions in Vivaldi at this stage may produce random results and crashes.
Do not waste yours or the developers time by complaining about Vivaldi crashing or being weird if you have installed any extensions.
Disable all of them before testing Vivaldi for problems.