Otter Browser (Opera 12 reloaded)
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… in this case:
%localappdata%\Otter\otter\bookmarks.xbelor a corresponding path path doing the same on Linux
on Linux it's .config/otter/bookmarks.xbel
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Btw I Use this Icon atm: Greenstone Fish Hook
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Found it quite suitable: A bit Otter, a bit Vivaldi and with a little fantasy there is also an O …
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Alpha 4 is out. For changelog, download and more see: Alpha 4 release (01-04-2014)
If only it would be possible to disable the status(?) bar on the bottom (that with the Zoom), i would be happy.
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Just tried the latest beta and for me it's basic but promising. At this stage I would compare it to chopera. Give it a year or so to mature and I think opera's presto user will have a new love.
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Currently the most painful aspect of it is underdevelopment of the address field. There are also other major features planned but missing: Panel, Notes and Email.
On the other hand, Bookmarks, History and Downloading has already taken good shape. I have personally talked to the developer and I can say the ideas and determination are solidly there. Particularly, the determination to do things right. That's one of the reasons why address field has been delayed.
Some of the planned features may never materialise. More selfless developers would be nice to have. But as it is, the software has reached a usable testing stage. Give it a shot.
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1st Beta. Cool - go ahead!
But one thing is still bad on small screens. That i can´t disable the bar on the bottom.
If only it would be possible to disable the status(?) bar on the bottom (that with the Zoom), i would be happy.
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The interface is a bit crude, but it's a very promising project. In some aspects it's already better than Chropera.
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Otter has now Panel (Sidebar) and (decently) configurable keyboard shortcuts.
Otter can import old Opera's bookmarks better than any other browser I have tried, e.g. better than Qupzilla. After import, bookmarks keywords are preserved.
Otter has also re-created Opera's Quick Bookmark Access dialogue (Shift+F2 by default). Type the bookmark keyword in the dialogue and it will take you there.
The address field is still underdeveloped, but at this stage for me Otter surpasses any other Chrome-ish product. It's now on a par with Qupzilla.
Otter also has a tray icon, website preferences (F12), and rocker gestures for history navigation
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The translations were updated a week ago, but your translation will also make it into some next release
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Since Otter Browser is designed to be modular, Vivaldi would have no problem integrating their clean room rewrite of Presto into the browser.
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Since Otter Browser is designed to be modular, Vivaldi would have no problem integrating their clean room rewrite of Presto into the browser.
Chropera's engine is already being tried in Otter https://github.com/Emdek/otter/issues/615 The development is pretty far.
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Ja np. mam problemy, które związane są ze współpracą z nowszą Javą, jak np. na tej stronie. Jest tam interaktywny wykres, który właściwie nie jest już interaktywny, bo po każdym dotknięciu, zmianie jakiejś opcji wyświetlania wykres znika - skrypt przestaje działać. Pomaga odświeżenie strony, ale wykres powraca do pierwotnych ustawień. Podobne problemy są też po zalogowaniu, gdzie czasem nie pojawiają się pola do wpisania wartości procentowej. Po kilku odświeżeniach pola się pokazują.
Opera 12.17, Win 7 x64, Java 7 U45.
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I like the initiative… but it feels like it's "too little, too late", sadly...
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I tired it out just now, and I tried it out a few years ago. Both times, YouTube didn't work. I don't think this is a viable browser.
Edit: And it's not just YouTube. I tried out a video file. Not a video on a webpage (like YouTube), just the plain video. Otter only played the audio.
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@eggcorn , there are fewer and fewer viable browsers, abandoned among the large ones that encompass the market.
A few years ago there were dozens of different browsers, but nowadays there are only a few left, apart from Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Edge and Brave, none of them give me too much confidence.
I use, apart from Vivaldi, Firefox and UR, although only for test reasons, in case Vivaldi has any problems on a page.
With this I can check in FF with another engine (Gecko) or with UR (Blink like Vivaldi), if the problem is due to Vivaldi or the page.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle Yeah, it's sad. I can tell this browser has a lot of good points. Like the Vivaldi browser (whish I think, didn't exist when this thread was created), it's trying to be the old Opera. In some ways, it's even better then Vivaldi at that. But that doesn't count for much, when I can't even watch a video on it.
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@eggcorn Yeah, the Otter Browser developer, an old-time hard-core Opera fan, started working on Otter maybe a year to six months before Vivaldi development was underway, and by the time the first Technical Preview of Vivaldi was released 28 Jan 2015, he'd already been at it for two years or better.
He's got a pretty deep understanding of browsers and some good coding skills, but he's just one guy with a couple of volunteer hangers-on, and just can't make progress fast enough to attract a following.
After (or at least around the time) the Vivaldi TP was released, Emdek was invited to contribute his skills to Vivaldi, maybe even offered a job, but he declined. then some of his fans began trashing Vivaldi and some of its forum members (including yours truly) and there just was no chemistry between the two camps after that. I had actually been experimenting with Otter Browser (and some others) before Vivaldi appeared, but the day Vivaldi came out, I adopted it, and never looked back.
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@ayespy said in Otter Browser (Opera 12 reloaded):
After (or at least around the time) the Vivaldi TP was released, Emdek was invited to contribute his skills to Vivaldi, maybe even offered a job, but he declined.
I'm a little sad he didn't take it. Vivaldi might have been better if he did. But then, it's easy to know the right decision in retrospect. If at the time, there was a good chance of Otter becoming viable, then he may well have made the right choice.
Then some of his fans began trashing Vivaldi and some of its forum members (including yours truly) and there just was no chemistry between the two camps after that.
What two camps? Sounds like you're talking about adult-children throwing a hissy fit.
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@eggcorn There are Otter fans and Vivaldi fans. There don't seem to be many (if any) who are fans of both. For some reason the Otter fans found it necessary to find fault with Vivaldi. I think they were afraid it would draw away usership. I would still use Otter myself if I found it usable but, like Qupzilla, Sleipnir, and others I tried. I didn't, and so here I am.
