Neuralink’s First-in-Human Clinical Trial

ugly

There's no question that Elon's behaviour and actions have become increasingly erratic, polemic, and susceptible to disinformation and conspiracy myths.

The question then becomes whether you can separate his own personal actions, with the actions of his companies and how much direct control he has.

Pesala

@ugly There is no doubt that the Mainstream Media have painted a false-narrative about Elon that many fall for hook, line, and sinker.

I started this topic to share the good news of hope for paraplegia victims, but all people can manage is to react with misguided opinions, and baseless accusations of ulterior motives. Not a word about other companies also working on this new frontier, or ideas of what other problems it can solve. Some people need a brain implant to correct their negative views on life, and to rejuvenate their hippocampus.

The guy has spent $ millions over eight years getting Neuralink up and running, with nothing profitable to sell yet, in the hope that real benefits will come in the future. The business needs to be self-sustaining for the long-term, so it will have to break-even at least, or make a profit to expand research.

The Indian media compared Elon Musk to Pakistan, a rogue actor with too much power. India now wants investment from Tesla. Would they seek investment from a rogue?

Doesn't anyone see what is going on here? The ADL attack him with orchestrated attacks, claiming antisemitism on Twitter, which they posted themselves. Talk about bad actors.

ingolftopf

@Pesala
Please do not recommend participants here, not even polemically, a brain implant.

Please also not when it comes to the very important topic for you of Elon Musk.

As I said, I don't think this is actually your style.

Pesala

@ingolftopf You showed your cards in your first post. All you are doing is detracting from any positive discussion with personal attacks on Elon Musk.

(Mod edit: Personal disparagement of other user removed.)

ugly

@Pesala said in Neuralink’s First-in-Human Clinical Trial:

@ugly There is no doubt that the Mainstream Media have painted a false-narrative about Elon that many fall for hook, line, and sinker.

Doesn't anyone see what is going on here? The ADS attack him with orchestrated attacks, claiming antisemitism on Twitter, which they posted themselves. Talk about bad actors.

There's a lot to unpack there. But from what I remember, you've always been nice, so I won't bother getting into it. Hopefully you can pull yourself out of the manipulative media ecosystem you've found your way into.

@Pesala said in Neuralink’s First-in-Human Clinical Trial:

I started this topic to share the good news of hope for paraplegia victims, but all people can manage is to react with misguided opinions, and baseless accusations of ulterior motives. Not a word about other companies also working on this new frontier, or ideas of what other problems it can solve. Some people need a brain implant to correct their negative views on life, and to rejuvenate their hippocampus.

The guy has spent $ millions over eight years getting Neuralink up and running, with nothing profitable to sell yet, in the hope that real benefits will come in the future. The business needs to be self-sustaining for the long-term, so it will have to break-even at least, or make a profit to expand research.

Hopefully it works out, either from him or others. There are also concerns about the monkeys in the research.
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/

Pesala

@ugly said in Neuralink’s First-in-Human Clinical Trial:

Hopefully it works out, either from him or others. There are also concerns about the monkeys in the research.

The practice of vivisection is clearly unwholesome. The approval of human trials means that human beings can now volunteer, knowing that there are risks, but hoping that the potential benefits will justify those risks. Animals do not have that knowledge, so experimenting on them is unethical, although the FDA allows it under certain conditions.

VelociWaffle

Some people need a brain implant to correct their negative views on life, and to rejuvenate their hippocampus.

This is my first time here so be easy with me.

What you said here is a little bothersome, but I feel I need to establish some context to fully explain why. Most people are familiar with schizophrenia, in some way or another. I have had my fair share of a few. Some are worse for wear, others are doing alright for themselves. But even the ones that aren't as bad off still have a common 'symptom', if that's what you want to call it.

Schizophrenics usually go through experiences of highs and lows. It almost looks like a pattern on repeat. Family members of the afflicted often report seeing the turns coming. But over the last decade or so, we have had a spike in anxiety within the younger communities. Many of these youth freak out, go to a doctor, and are given a diagnosis. Sometimes it is for anxiety. But sometimes, I feel people are being 'catch-alled' into a schizophrenic diagnosis. I am no doctor, of course. But I have spoken with many who also feel this way.

The reason I go into detail like that, the common symptom is concluding that you are not schizophrenic.

What happens if some young man goes through a traumatic episode, handles it poorly, is told he is schizophrenic (usually diagnosed between ages 21 and 26), and then comes to find out he is not schizophrenic? As of today, some doctors will speak up for a client when they believe there is a misdiagnosis. But if the answer to negative views is to put a chip in a brain, would that not be messed up to do to someone who may or may not be going through what you think they are?

I have followed the idea of Neuralink for a long time. And I am very fond of technological advancements. But I cannot believe that a technology like this should ever be used to "correct" someone's mind. This is very dangerous territory. What happens when someone starts giving orders to "correct" someone for not believing the same thing?

Just my two cents. I never really jump on forums. I'm sure I could count on my two hands how many times I have posted on Reddit and the likes. But does anyone else see that this could also be very bad?

Edit: @ugly I didn't mean to click reply on your post. I believe it was @Pesala who I am quoting. As I said, I don't use forums.

DoctorG

@Pesala And i hope they will not make such experiments with prisoners or metal ill which have not the freedom to decide.

Pesala

@DoctorG How could they get FDA otherwise?

Those who have quadraplegia can apply to join the first in-human clinical trials.

The PRIME Study is being conducted under the investigational device exemption (IDE) awarded by the FDA in May 2023 and represents an important step in our mission to create a generalized brain interface to restore autonomy to those with unmet medical needs.

Those who have quadriplegia due to cervical spinal cord injury or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) may qualify.

Pesala

100 Days of 1st Clinical Trial

PRIME Study Progress Update — User Experience.

After about three months, the results seem to be quite promising. I guess that we will see the trial extended to more patients this year, and exponential progress in the abilities of Neuralink implants by the end of 2025.

Pesala

Another Update

1st Neuralink Patient’s Staggering Update

Pesala

How dexterous are you?

Webgrid Tests measure the performance of patients fitted with a Neuralink implant.

The first patient achieved a new record of 8 BPS. How fast are you with a mouse?

I only managed about 6 BPS.

Damnits

everybody gangsta until it gets near a magnet

norsonmandel

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Pesala

Third Volunteer with a Brain Implant

First non-verbal patient.

“Bradford G. Smith is the third person in the World to receive Elon Musk's Neuralink brain implant — and the first with ALS, the first who is nonverbal.

He types with his brain now, and this is his primary way of communicating.”

I guess that this technology is still in the early trial phase, but it is already providing real benefits.