The Naughty Corner [aka, OT innit].
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@Steffie Btw, yesterday before closing V, I took a look at my forum settings and change
Watch | Default category watch statefromWatchingtoNot Watching. So, this morning, no unread count in navbar! This is not the way it is supposed to work:
Let's be clear: I'm not ignoring all categories.
Then, I have reverted to my previous setting:
…but I'm only notified (fortunately) about threads I deliberately marked as watched.
There's definitively some glitches/bugs in the forum's software (nothing new…).
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@hlehyaric Wait, you're saying that there's... a glitch in the Matrix?
Now i'm terrified about Agent Smith, all over again!
Happy Sunday morn, from Sunday night.
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@Steffie Fortunately, it's Sunday for everyone
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@hlehyaric Categories work differently. For a topic, there’s
- watching: get notifications, show in unread
- not watching: show in unread
- ignoring: don’t show in unread
but a category has
- watching: show in unread
- not watching: don’t show in unread, but show in recent
- ignoring: don’t show in either
It’s even explained like this in the drop-down.
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@potmeklecbohdan Yes, you're right, but it only applies to drop down menus in categories. There's no explanation in forum settings menu. Thus my mistake. Anyway, it's confusing, same wording, different settings.
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@hlehyaric Fwiw:
...coz it begins to appear that my expectation of how it should manifest here in the forum differs from how it was designed/deployed...
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@Steffie That's the drop down menu in topic/category.
I was talking about a global setting in forum settings whereWatching | Not Watching | Ignoringare not defined (and I didn't expect category definition being different from topic definition). Btw, it doesn't really matter. My issue was easily fixed
.You may take a look at your global settings, as it doesn't seem all these settings are consistent.
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@hlehyaric Do you mean these?
Afaik they've been these values for 42% [@TbGbe
] of forever -- are they wrong? 
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@Steffie Yes, that's what I meant. It seems OK to me.
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@hlehyaric Ta. I think it's best i just chillout & go all zen on this ... if V wants to notify me, that's cool... if V chooses not to, that's cool too. How hard can it be anyway, to pretend to be a hoopy frood?
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@Steffie That's the best we can do: live with forum inconsistencies
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@npro said in tabs don't load on start of snapshot 3.5.2110.3:
Best thing is to use Stable for daily use and Snapshot for testing the new features, as described in the link above
Now i find this interesting, & am interested to hear how others go about this, coz did i mention that i'm interested in its interestingnessocity?
There was a time quite a long time back now, when i seriously thought i could manage the logistics implied by the above policy. However i fizzled out pretty much immediately, & chose instead simply to use Snapshots as my default [with Stable only as emergency fallback -- given most Snapshots have been eminently "usable" for years, it's been pretty rare i have needed to revert to Stable].
My "fizzlement" was coz i decided that i had the greatest chance of finding bugs in Snapshots, if i was using Snapshots all the time, thus exposing them to the full gamut of my daily & longer-term workflow. Maximising the stress test, if you like. Additionally, i realised from those times that a new Snapshot introduced some new feature of value to me, my FOMO made it very challenging to just stick with Stable, when i knew i was denying myself some fulltime access to new goodies.
To those who follow the @npro paradigm, how do you manage to be so strong?
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@Steffie I like consistency
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@Steffie I can't manage to use two browsers on a daily basis. Too much hassle.
I switched to Snapshot 4 years and a half ago and since then, Snapshot has been my daily browser. I have Stable installed as a back up, just in case some kolossal Katastrophe happens in Snapshot. So far, I've only used Stable to mainly check Settings in French… (I'm a traitor, my snapshot UI language is English).I don't think that's @npro paradigm, I'm pretty sure it's some kind of official statement.
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@Steffie I use Snapshot for daily use and Stable for "forum post checking" and the odd occasion when Snapshot falls behind (because of security updates).
Note: Because of testing/verification I don't have them synced. So most of my settings/tweaks/bookmarks etc are only in Snapshot.
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@Steffie I do use Stable (in English - traitor like @hlehyaric) on one screen and +/- like @TbGbe for forum post checking, mails, etc. and the Snapshot (in French) on the other screen to make searches, watch videos, etc.
@TbGbe said in The Naughty Corner [aka, OT innit].:
Note: Because of testing/verification I don't have them synced. So most of my settings/tweaks/bookmarks etc are only in Snapshot.
For me, not synced either but, for the rest, it's the other way round (all settings, tweaks, mods, etc. are made on the Stable version).
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@Steffie The one thing is what we percieve as a "computer" hobby, which inludes the understanding/living with/enjoying minor or major risks, the other is just user misconception that can lead to frustration, anger burst and unfair treatment, we very often see those in this forum. It's not accidental after all that Snapshot is pretty hidden and nowhere to be found officially. So it's best to enlighten casual users, with some official word
. Hunting bugs isn't a bad thing per se, it's a hobby occupation, a selfless offer to a community or even an ethical "obligation", or even naivness, but it's not what casual users want to do, they want software that doesn't break their work or gives them headaches "out of nowhere". I guess we don't need to further rediscover what beta software is, do we? 
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@npro said in The Naughty Corner [aka, OT innit].:
Hunting bugs isn't a bad thing per se
Poor kids of nature! Bug lives matter! Bug lives matter!
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@potmeklecbohdan They don't kill them, they just "remove" them
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@npro Yeah, poor bugs! Who has ever asked anyone to remove them from their natural environment?
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