Games, Why?
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@npro said in Games, Why?:
When Jon v. T and Tatsuki Tomita open-source the browser
There's nothing binding about this either, I would even say it's less likely to occur than half the feature requests in the top ten vote count. I say half because things like the Sessions Panel can already be had via a mod. If I were prioritizing the feature requests for development planning, functionality for which a mod exists would be deemphasized compared to requests with similar (yet less) votes for which there was no way to get that functionality currently. This increases the total functionality available. I love the Sessions Panel, but would still suggest Vivaldi implement the next feature request in terms of popularity for which no mod exists, even if I wouldn't use it. From a utilitarian perspective, that makes the most sense.
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I have been heavily involved in this game project. I have been wanting to integrate a game into Vivaldi for quite some time. Why you may ask? Because I think it fits. Other browsers also have simple games built in, but I wanted something more in our own style. Something that is worthwhile to play for a few minutes here and there. The goal is to have a game that is easy to start playing. A game that is interesting and fun, but does not try to get you locked in.
We wanted to make a game that is small. The game is smaller in size than most web pages. It is coded from scratch and we have created a gaming engine on the way, that is potentially able to be used for similar games in the future, should we want to. The game is built using web technology.
I have watched as the game started with an idea. Then there were some first levels and graphics. Then there was a lot of iteration as the team perfected the game play. Making a game may not be hard, but making a game that is playable and fun with a lot of variation and little details, that is hard. I am proud of what the team has achieved.
The team building the game is called Porcelain Fortress. They are a team in Iceland and we quickly bonded over technology and retro gaming. I have a few old games at home, both pinball machines and arcade games. I wanted to share some of that with you by building a fun game. My feeling is that we have achieved that, but clearly not all of you agree.
The team at Vivaldi continues to work on... Vivaldi. We have a lot of tasks to work on and you see many of the things we work on being displayed in the latest build. We added editing of many contextual menus. We added automatic tab reload. We continued to improve other functions all across the browser. These tasks are part of a bigger task which is to build the most feature rich and flexible browser out there. As we move forward, you will be able to tailor Vivaldi to your needs even more than you can today. That means you will be able to select what functionality to have visible at any one time, so you can have a bare bones browser or a feature rich browser or anything in between. We are unique in this way and we are proud to offer you this flexibility.
When it comes to another baby of mine, M3, it is coming. As many of you know, we have been working on it for a long time. It is a lot of fun, but things have taken longer than we have wanted. We are still working on some loose ends, but we aim to have a Technical Preview build for you inside the next few weeks. There are bugs to fix that we do not want to have in a Technical Preview. That being said, many of us have been using M3 for a long time and we love using it. My hope is that you will as well.
Have a nice day!
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@jon said in Games, Why?:
but things have taken longer than we have wanted
As is so often the case with any (development) project. Cheap, good, and fast -- you can have any you want but only 2, or so goes the saying. In reality it's some balance with each trading off a little for the others. I think the Vivaldi team has done a great job at finding that balance.
Your resources are sort of a fixed factor, without selling your users which we all appreciate, and I've always been impressed with the quality Vivaldi releases. I've got a lot of experience in software development, including web & mobile, mostly on the QA side. I suppose that's why I prefer a slightly slower release schedule for a higher quality product, and so I know I'll have to be patient for it.
I'm not a gamer, though I always have a special place in my heart for Galaga, and Mario Kart 64. So it's not a feature I would have asked for, but I do appreciate it being a part of Vivaldi's character. To a (probably not limited) extent, this is a passion project for you, and many of the Vivaldi team. It's not all business, and it's good to see the personalities of the people behind the broswer being built into the software itself.
Keep doing what you're doing. It's good, including paying attention to the voices of your users such as here. No matter what gets released next, there will be some of us who would have wished it was something else, possibly even me. But we are still thankful that you've created Vivaldi, and built a browser that meets so much of our wants and needs, have done so while respecting our personal data, and continue to improve upon it with every release.
Cheers!
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haha, I am agree with you. A clean browser is needed, no game.
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I tried it out. It's neat, but I doubt it'll be diverting additional funds from my gaming budget away from Final Fantasy XIV. And yet, despite it not offering me any real utility, I am somehow not offended by its existence or inclusion in the browser.
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@18green I actually like the game (and setting) a lot, but what really makes me wonder about this opinion is that there has been a game (dinosaur game) in the browser all the time. I have not heard complaints about this one before.
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A built in amiga emulator would be most welcome,(just a thought lol.)
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@Pesala Sure. I'm just saying is that people complaining about the browser being bloated should have done so before. If they start complaining now, that's not authentic in the slightest.
(And I for one am certainly in demand for a responsive browser, but 5 MB more or less which do not change a thing should not bother anyone and do not influence performance.) -
@Pesala , Vivaldi also has the Tony game from the beginning, I think.
@jon , I don't think you have to justify the inclusion of one or more games for idle moments, other browsers have it too.
I think there are few people who do not have some games on their PC or mobile, even at work. Although personally I am fatal in these platform games, because my reflexes at my age are no longer what they were and in this I do not exceed 200 points, I find this idea pleasant and healthy.
On my mobile I also have some games, mainly puzzels and all of them OpenSource, for example Laser Tank, a Puzzle shooter from 1995 (OSS, PC,, Android, iOS) that I like a lot and it also takes up very little space, despite having more than 2000 maps (free access all of them).
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@jumpsq There was nothing to complain about before; now there is, but no one is listening to reason.
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@Pesala just as @Catweazle is saying, there already was the tony/dino game. I don't see what should be different now (except that this one is more enjoyable to me)
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@BoneTone said in Games, Why?:
@jon said in Games, Why?:
but things have taken longer than we have wanted
As is so often the case with any (development) project. Cheap, good, and fast -- you can have any you want but only 2, or so goes the saying. In reality it's some balance with each trading off a little for the others. I think the Vivaldi team has done a great job at finding that balance.
Your resources are sort of a fixed factor, without selling your users which we all appreciate, and I've always been impressed with the quality Vivaldi releases. I've got a lot of experience in software development, including web & mobile, mostly on the QA side. I suppose that's why I prefer a slightly slower release schedule for a higher quality product, and so I know I'll have to be patient for it.
I'm not a gamer, though I always have a special place in my heart for Galaga, and Mario Kart 64. So it's not a feature I would have asked for, but I do appreciate it being a part of Vivaldi's character. To a (probably not limited) extent, this is a passion project for you, and many of the Vivaldi team. It's not all business, and it's good to see the personalities of the people behind the broswer being built into the software itself.
Keep doing what you're doing. It's good, including paying attention to the voices of your users such as here. No matter what gets released next, there will be some of us who would have wished it was something else, possibly even me. But we are still thankful that you've created Vivaldi, and built a browser that meets so much of our wants and needs, have done so while respecting our personal data, and continue to improve upon it with every release.
Cheers!
@BoneTone , thank you for your kind words. Clearly the reason we are building Vivaldi as very much about passion. We want to offer a browser that follows a different philosophy, placing the users' needs in the center. Obviously, given that we consider the needs of all our users, there are bound to be features that some like and some like less.
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I think that offline activities are quite hard to manage nowadays because of the covid restrictions so many people tend to stay at home most of the time. Lets just hope this will change one day.
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