Will there be an Opera for Linux or not?
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One of the replies to the above post:
"Opera is actually doing their Linux users a service (albeit not on purpose) by not letting them see the travesty of a browser that now bears their name"
I have to agree.
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I concluded a long time ago that there will not be a Linux version - and judging by the Windows version it would be rubbish
I suspected it as soon as the announcement of dropping Presto was made. I was in denial for some time, but this insider info now removed any further doubts.
I just regret wasting money on Opera/FreeBSD 7 and Opera Mobile 8.
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The important question to me is will the "something very interesting" coming from Vivaldi be compatible with Linux - and have a user interface compatible with desktop PCs?
This is it, I don't think Opera can be salvaged. On my Linux laptop Opera 12.16 is on borrowed time. If Vivaldi does "something" I hope the do a Linux version.
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ich glaube auch nicht daran, dass von Opera noch etwas für Linux kommen wird. Darum sehe ich mich langsam nach Alternativen um.
Ich hoffe aber auf eine Überraschung :silly:
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I don't believe also that anything for Linux will come from Opera. That's why I'm slow for alternatives.But I hope to be surprised :silly:
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There currently is no replacement for Opera Presto. I'm looking into it since 2012, but can't find one.
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The closest I've seen to a replacement for Opera 12 was Konqueror, if you use KDE. It doesn't allow custom functions on buttons, but you can rearrange the toolbars and keyboard (and add buttons for functions which don't currently have them).
That is to say, if you wanted a button for "Reopen last closed tab" you can do that, but if you want a button with "copy text and open new window and search for text in Wikipedia" you're out of luck.
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Opera has a lot of work to do in the changing of browsing engines, and then adding features back, (they have a few different distros to do), also some plug ins are no longer updated on Linux. They are also trying to help clean up the code in Chromium (remove dead or old code)
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They are also trying to help clean up the code in Chromium (remove dead or old code)
So they are basically working for Google to improve Chrome? Chrome has a Linux version available. So I should use that instead, right?
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The closest I've seen to a replacement for Opera 12 was Konqueror, if you use KDE. It doesn't allow custom functions on buttons, but you can rearrange the toolbars and keyboard (and add buttons for functions which don't currently have them).
I also noticed Konqueror over a decade ago and liked it for the same reasons I liked Opera first: Extensive rearranging of buttons.
However, compared to Opera, Konqueror's customisability is a bit harder to do and is not as extensive. Moreover, Konqueror only looks good on KDE. Not everybody has that desktop.
People like Opera for different reasons. What attracted me most to Opera was the mail client. With the email client gone, I consider Opera dead for good. I just keep the old binaries around as long as they launch.
My honest assessment of the situation is that the company has left the browser business. The current desktop product is just an extension of the lucrative mobile version, and the carrier of the historical name. They monetise on it as long as it brings in money. There is no focus on developing anything with any actual user in mind.
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They are also trying to help clean up the code in Chromium (remove dead or old code)
So they are basically working for Google to improve Chrome? Chrome has a Linux version available. So I should use that instead, right?
No Google is using the Blink engine in Chromium which the engine is being worked on by both Opera & Google, Opera (15+) and the current Chrome both use the Blink engine in Chromium. Chromium is only part of the browser, Opera has added things to it (even on OS X & Windows they are still adding features back from the Presto days)
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No Google is using the Blink engine in Chromium which the engine is being worked on by both Opera & Google, Opera (15+) and the current Chrome both use the Blink engine in Chromium.
Chromium is Chrome without some Google Branding and Blink is an integral part of it. Opera 15+ is a customized Chromium, nothing more. Blink is not a standalone engine.
Chromium is only part of the browser, Opera has added things to it
It's completely irrelevant, what they added, because it doesn't work on Linux, so it is not a usable cross-platform browser, Chrome/Chromium OTOH is one.
If Opera helps Google improving their browser including the Linux version of it, why the hell should I use their non-portable, closed-source version of Chromium, so they can generate revenue from me? I get the browser engine improvements anyway and in weird bullshit like "Discover" I'm not interested in.
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It same question keeps getting asked on the desktop team blog, Opera has already stated they have one in the works, and will have a test version out when it is ready for testing
http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/09/opera-17-next/
"To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux." -
Well, whether they're going to have an Opera for Linux or not, I'm sort of past caring. I did an apt-get purge opera a month or so ago and am quite unlikely to reinstall it again when or if a Linux version arrives, as I'm fed up with the unreasonable long delay, silence and vagueness by Opera.
I've mostly used Firefox (Phoenix way back when it started) as my primary browser, but for over a decade I've also had Opera installed as a secondary browser (although sometimes it became primary), so I didn't take this decision lightly. It might be churlish of me, but there is so much patience one can allow before one gets the impression that you're either not wanted or considered an inconvenient chore to support. Fine, if that's the case, then I'll make your job easier by uninstalling it.
It's a pity, because Opera was an excellent browser. So good that even though it was closed source, I was willing to let that go.
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