What browser do you use and why?
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Ah… so it's the latest version with the Blink engine. Here's a bit of history. Opera developed under Jon Von T. used the Presto rendering engine. It was highly configurable and did not really need extensions since it came complete out of the box, so to speak. It was also a suite with an integrated email client which the new Opera does not contain. One of the key missing features in the new Opera is the lack of what many consider to be a proper bookmark manager. Whereas there are other issues as well, this appears to be the main one causing the most consternation. That does not mean that you have no way to bookmark favorite sites in the new Opera (you can do so via the bookmark bar by dragging and dropping sites onto it and even making folders on the bar and then dragging like sites into those folders). However, for those with extensive bookmarks, this bar is insufficient and so many have gone back to an earlier Presto version (i.e. Opera 12.16) or to a completely different browser (i.e. Firefox). There are problems inherent with returning to an earlier version (i.e. site compatibility as more sites refuse to recognize the older version) and eventually security although for the time being that is being taken care of by the Opera developers.
That's sort of a thumbnail sketch. I left out many other missing features (i.e. side panel, menu bar, proper skins, etc.) and I'm sure others will fill in the blanks.
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The Opera I downloaded on 24 Feb 2014, today, includes an icon called Speed Dial on the far right of the address/URL bar. It seems to be a form of bookmarks, at least for pages I have used since downloading it. Perhaps it is limited to the number of sites it might hold, but I will learn that soon enough since I visit several dozen sites in any given set of days. My research takes me to many news sites around the world.
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After O15 had first been released I tried to find a proper substitute for O12.15.
The only promising candidate for my desktop seemed to be the Sleipnir browser.Unfortunately it is slow and fragmented. They try to put too much into it so that the user get confused. Options are not where I would expect them etc.
It took me some time to get used to that system and in the end… well, I ended up with my beloved Opera 12.15.And I will use it until some proper browser comes along!
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The Opera I downloaded on 24 Feb 2014, today, includes an icon called Speed Dial on the far right of the address/URL bar.
Speed Dial is meant as a fast way to access frequently visited places. Stash is somewhat similar but meant more as a convenient way to return to a site so-marked for reading later. The truth is, I find both unnecessary since I use the bookmarks' bar. As I mentioned, you can right click it and add folders to it (i.e. news sites) after activating it via the Settings. Then when you navigate to a particular site of interest (i.e. MSN News) you can right click on the icon in the address bar and drag and drop it into that particular folder. Lacking any folders you can just drag and drop it onto the bar itself. If you right click that you can change the name under Properties to shorten it to fit better. In that manner you would be able to hold literally hundreds of bookmarked sites on that bar in their various folders. In fact some even have folders nested within folders but that is more than I presently need.
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James should have known, it is almost impossible for a newbie to find desktop versions of Presto. There is one link halfway down the rather longish page describing Opera for Computers … and given you probably never even saw that page, you never saw the link.
The link to download 12.16 is http://www.opera.com/download/get/?partner=www&opsys=Windows&classic=1 and if you want to try some of the older versions you should probably just go to the FTP site ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/
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Thank you for the useful link! It's definitely respectful that somebody still uses "ye goode olde" Presto Opera for Windows.
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James should have known, it is almost impossible for a newbie to find desktop versions of Presto. There is one link halfway down the rather longish page describing Opera for Computers … and given you probably never even saw that page, you never saw the link.
Hi, Steve. Yeah, I knew about the somewhat "hidden" link to the older Presto version but that wasn't the version that had been downloaded. Furthermore, while the older version is far more configurable than the newer, we both know it's not as compatible with many websites today (particularly popular sites like YouTube and Facebook). I know it lacks a "proper bookmark manager" but the truth is, some users don't need more than what the bookmark bar offers (I'm one of those less sophisticated users myself).
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I know it lacks a "proper bookmark manager" but the truth is, some users don't need more than what the bookmark bar offers (I'm one of those less sophisticated users myself).
Not to mention that the browser looks more streamlined and less cluttered with such an awesome bookmarks toolbar
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I use Opera 19, Firefox (nightly), and Safari. Firefox is by far the best browser to use for web development, Safari is nice because it's so integrated with iCloud, and Opera is awesome because it's just so damn fast.
Unless Chrome is separated from Google, I'm staying away from it.
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LOL…ah Krake; ever the master of understatement.
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I still use OPERA 12.14. With facebook and youtube it works better than 12.16. I still see no real replace for it. My second browser is IRON. I like it because it needs no Add-On/Extension for Adblocking. It contains also a simple script-blocker. IRON is much better than the new OPERA.
Im curious for MIDORI and OTTER.
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Firefox with a crippling number of add-ons, the latest stable Opera, Chrome, Safari depending on the site. Usually two or three at the same time with no particular preference, and the available mobile versions such as Coast or Opera mini.
Variety, spice, and all that (or perhaps a fear of attachment).
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Opera 12 cos suits my needs best and opera mini on my old nokia phone.
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@jimc
I've been running QTWeb through some paces lately, and so far it is performing pretty well. I use various operating systems and having similar functionality is convenient. It compares to Firefox 26 in terms of security, has decent bookmarking and a search bar. It is also quite small, the tarball for Linux is only about 12 meg, and the Windows download about 8. You can run it as a portable browser from live CD/USB, or even from the hard disk, and control what information is stored in your profile if you even want a profile. -
Home machine (linux) uses a mix of Opera or Iron, depending on what I'm doing.
Work machine is all over the place. Sometimes I use Opera 12 portable, sometimes Opera Developer, sometimes IE, sometimes even SeaMonkey, since I use that as a mailer, and it's loaded. To be honest, at the point, I'm using the Opera 12 less and less because of a real funky problem with rendered fonts. Sometimes some of the fonts display as Wingdings or a font very similar. Then, restart and it goes away…usually. Then it stops for a while and then it comes back, and, well, life's too short, you know? Opera Developer seems OK, as these things go. I don't do any active HTML / JS programming these days, so Dragonfly and firebug aren't really that important. When push comes to shove, they're all about the same, all in all.As for when I use each, IE seems to still be the default, so when it runs, I just run with it. I load Opera 12 first thing in the AM and check the standard link on the speed dial list, and if it's still open, usually jump to that. I use SeaMonkey if I'm reading mail, and want a brower, I'l ctrl-1 which is the hotkey to load the browser, since it's faster.
Since you asked
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Crome, IE won't let me print from any application so why bother ?
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[hide]The best browser is Opera, of course. But if you use Discover on Opera you will not use Vivaldi.net. So Firefox presumably is the better solution. So does it sure? ;)[/hide]
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I use Palemoon with a ridiculous number of add-ons for general browsing, Chrome for webgames and anything else Flash-heavy, IE when I just need a quick web search, Opera 12.x for mail/IRC/everything else. I wish the new version of opera was as functional as the old, but it just doesn't come close. So, Palemoon wins for now.
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I use Palemoon with a ridiculous number of add-ons for general browsing,
There I was thinking, due to your avatar, that you would be extolling the virtues of Iceweasel.
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I still use old Opera 12.16, but for "heavy sites" i work on Firefox or Chromium. That's because most of time i spend under Linux, and Google-Chrome suck's at it, and IE is not available. But - who cares about them
At work Opera 12 because I don't need to install it
