FingerprintJS Pro

code3

https://fingerprintjs.com/demo/
Seems to bypass all protections against fingerprinting I have. What can I do to stop it? Is there a way to rotate certain settings - maybe block third-party cookies sometime, unblock them sometime, turn on and off do not track.

Note: It does not track across profiles or private browsing for me. I am using "trace" fingerprint prevention.

Solution: Go to "Delete browsing data" and select "Cookies" and "Cache." Remember that other fingerprinting mechanisms are different, they might rely on IP more than cache for example. If you want to support anti-fraud methods that do not involve fingerprinting, download the "Privacy Pass" extension.

Catweazle

@code3 , try with this
https://www.cydecplatform.com/

code3

@Catweazle Is this a browser extension? How do I install/enable it?

By the way, I just changed my browser language, do not track settings, adblocker settings, cookie settings, cleared all my cookies and local storage, and put the demo site into a web panel so it would look like a phone, and it STILL gave me the same ID!

code3

@Catweazle I see the CyDec Anti-FP, but don't see how to install it.

code3

@Catweazle Oops, I did not look hard enough, I am trying it now.

Catweazle

@code3 , it is in the Chrome Store as extension and adicional a desktop app, which you can download from the home page.
With this you can simulate posting with an IE on an iPhone from Easter Island, if you want, but activating all the filters breaks half of the pages you visit.The only alternative is to use a VPN.

code3

@Catweazle Yes, I tried it. The tests I did on fingerprintjs were with Tor, so my IP was changing. Maybe a "real" VPN would be more effective? The extension you posted does seem better than Trace, so I will try it. Is there a desktop app for linux?

Catweazle

@code3 , I don't know, if there is for linux, look at the CyDec page, (if not, with Wine?).A VPN would certainly be the best solution, I use Proton VPN free, which in my opinion is the best and most reliable among the free ones.

code3

@Catweazle Okay, thank you. I think this will be better than Trace, and I will look at ProtonVPN. How is it more private than Tor?

Catweazle

@code3 , make no mistake, TOR is not more private than Vivaldi or Brave, it is a browser adapted to surf the .onion network, it is not specially adapted for privacy. This is why you always have to use it with a preloaded VPN tunnel to enter the .onion network, if not, you are exposed.
And yes, a VPN is the most private you can be on the network, since the page you visit only receives data from the server and the country through which the VPN connects. For example the Proton VPN in its free version, offers you the servers of the Netherlands, the United States and Japan and the pages you visit locate you in these countries, with an IP of these servers and with a hidden ISP, also with a military-level encrypted connection.
Proton, unlike other free VPNs, does not have a data volume limit, that is, it also works for streaming and downloads, the only limitation is that it has few servers and you can only use it on one device. Although going to premium is not that expensive either, if you want to use it more massively, with more servers and on several devices.
I just entered this page with the VPN and the only thing it discovers is that I use Chrome and Windows, IP, country and fingerprint do not correspond.

code3

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

TOR is not more private than Vivaldi or Brave, it is a browser adapted to surf the .onion network

I am not trying to surf the onion network, and I am not using Tor browser, I am using Vivaldi.

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

And yes, a VPN is the most private you can be on the network

I am asking how is it more private? The VPN provider can see your IP and the domain you connect to, Tor nodes cannot, at least that’s what I thought.

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

only thing it discovers is that I use Chrome and Windows, IP, country and fingerprint do not correspond.

Are you absolutely sure your fingerprint does not correspond? How did you test that? Fingerprint is much more than IP, as I discovered today.

Catweazle

@code3 , it's a diferent fingerprint as this without VPN.
That the VPN provider can see my IP is only relevant, if it keeps a log, as other VPN providers do, which in Proton is not the case, they do not identify anything or sell anything to others, unfortunately the case of other free VPNs .
This is why you always have to be careful with free VPNs, the only free ones that are honest in their TOS are Proton and Windscribe.
Proton makes money with the sale of its premium VPN, not with ads or logs, it was developed in Switzerland by CERN scientists, which I think is a good reference, which is why I also use Proton Mail.

code3

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

it's a diferent fingerprint as this without VPN.

Not sure what you mean.

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

That the VPN provider can see my IP is only relevant, if it keeps a log, as other VPN providers do, which in Proton is not the case, they do not identify anything or sell anything to others, unfortunately the case of other free VPNs .

Proton does seem more reputable than others.

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

This is why you always have to be careful with free VPNs, the only free ones that are honest in their TOS are Proton and Windscribe.
Proton makes money with the sale of its premium VPN, not with ads or logs, it was developed in Switzerland by CERN scientists, which I think is a good reference, which is why I also use Proton Mail.

You still didn't answer my question. Did you try fingerprintjs pro? How often does your fingerprint change?

It's only been a day, maybe my fingerprint will change if I wait longer before trying again.

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

which I think is a good reference, which is why I also use Proton Mail.

Do you use free or paid Proton Mail an VPN? Protonmail and VPN look good, the thing I don't like is that Protonmail doesn't seem to support autocrypt, while they do have some OpenPGP support, they seem to strongly encourage using Protonmail and not OpenPGP.

code3

@Catweazle Also: Do you actually use CyDec? It seems to break every page I visit with default settings, including maybe this one.

Catweazle

@code3 , the fingerprint changes depending on which server you connect to, even if it's from the same country, what they get is the fingerprint from this server, not mine.
CyDecI try in the past, but as you say, the protection is too much. As homepage itself says, it is an app rather for the protection of companies and less for a normal user.
But, as we're always in them, you can't expect 100% privacy when you connect to the network and want the sites you visit to remain functional, it's always to find a balance between privacy and the data we're willing to filter.
Personally I think that with Vivaldi ad/tracking blocker with a few more filters and Trace there is sufficient protection in normal use, using the VPN in a timely manner.
The rest depends on myself and my behavior on the network and the services I use.
If you want more, you can't use the internet, simple.

code3

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

If you want more, you can't use the internet, simple.

Of course

@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:

the fingerprint changes depending on which server you connect to, even if it's from the same country, what they get is the fingerprint from this server, not mine.

Yes, but how did you test this? FingerprintJS Pro tracks me across IP addresses, on and off of Tor, with do not track turned on and off, with Trace enabled, with randomized User Agent strings, with different languages, and without cookies.

code3

However, I just tested it, with Tor and Trace and with a Private window, and it gives a different fingerprint each time I open and close a Private Window. So, I am getting somewhere.

Catweazle

@code3 , same in Vivaldi, also a diferent FP in private window, as I say, Tor do not protect you really, but a VPN do.

code3

@Catweazle Okay. Does FingerprintJS Pro give you a different fingerprint EVERY single time? If not, when does it change?

Catweazle

@code3 , no, different in direct and in private window, but every time the same, with VPN change it on every server.
But like I said, don't get too into this, it doesn't make sense. If you block cookies and trackers, this data is of little use to them, rather than for statistical uses, I doubt that they can personally identify you with this.
If you have criminal intentions it does not serve you any security measures, the authorities have means to identify you even with TOR and VPN on the Deep Web, as shown by more than 3000 pages intervened on the Deep Web for illegal activities and holders made available to the judiciary.
TOR and the.onion network were developed by the U.S. defense and the NSA, do you think these and the rest of the secret services and bodies agencies against cybercrime in any country don't know all the tricks?
If you want privacy beyond what I said before, you better unplug the router and use the local-only PC, everything else is meaningless.