Show your V on your DT or WM.
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@bimlas Teehee. You were surprisingly gentle.
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So the original an analogy was about Arch & OpenBox bring similar in that they both are highly configurable an extremely minimalist in their default configurations. A common experience among first time users after installation is not knowing what to do next, or how to do it. Arch dumps you at a CLI prompt with only the bare minimum installed to make the system go. OpenBox dumps you at a blank screen, with only the bare minimum to allow you to interact using the mouse. No taskbar, no icons, no start button or system tray, just a blank screen; there's not even compositing. People click around and surprisingly often can't even find the menu.
Yet both provide the power to build up your system to deceivingly (or overtly) complex setups. The great thing is that you end up only with the stuff you need & want. The vast number of packages in the repos & AUR for Arch to grow. The myriad tools that can work alongside OpenBox, or features you can build just by editing some text (I've built a far more powerful window "snap"/tiling feature than exists in other DEs, Mac or Windows). It's that starting with virtually nothing, but ability to grow as one desires.
Dropping the installs with nothing aspect, Vivaldi fits in the extreme configurability part of the analogy, and as we've discussed, can be a minimalist browser -- both in looks and use (no need for a mouse if you don't have one, you can still make use of powerful features).
@bimlas said in Show your V on your DT or WM.:
Open the window sidebar (instead of the tabs at the top of the window)
I more frequently use the Window Panel to manage my tabs than the tab bar. I like to have the tab bar showing, on the right, however, as especially when maximized/fullscreen it moves the page content towards the center. Without having UI elements on either side, page content can stretch off to the edges of the screen and it improves the readability of large bodies of text when your eyes don't have to move so far side-to-side. Getting the tab bar off the top reclaims useful screen real estate for the content, while putting it on the side utilizes otherwise wasted or poorly used real estate and makes consuming the content easier.
Edit: I really need to create some screenshots to share.
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@BoneTone said in Show your V on your DT or WM.:
really need to create some screenshots to share
Too right, ya big tease!
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I don’t have much to show…
- almost default Awesome bar (coz of lack of ideas)
- no window decorations
- maximised mode
- in Vivaldi, the page takes 100% of the window (unless I need to see the uMatrix pop-up (I think ~10 or less times a day) or the window panel (less than once a day))
- if I put Vivaldi in non-max mode (I usually don’t), it has its background synced with the wallpaper, so on SD you’ll only see the SD folders bar (transparent) & window shadow (if it isn’t covered)
About your best WM/DE discussion, I think it’s Awesome. I don’t know the DE coz both KDE & XFCE have some disadvantages; I only used XFCE for a longer time but probably I’ll choose KDE.
Anyway, this is too much Xorg-centric (just like, unfortunately, Vivaldi).
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@potmeklecbohdan said in Show your V on your DT or WM.:
this is too much Xorg-centric (just like, unfortunately, Vivaldi
I'm going way OT here, so i hope that the annoying OP of this thread does not flag me. In October Plasma 5.20 becomes available, & given that it allegedly has many significant improvements to its historically lousy Wayland capability such that some early commentators have opined that with 5.20 W finally will be "usable", i'm thinking seriously of giving it a try.
Somewhere [maybe Phoronix; but wherever it was was not a Vivaldi site] ~ a week ago i read somewhere someone mention that Vivaldi does not work [well, or at all? i dunno] in Wayland -- does anyone here have insight on this pls?
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@Steffie Well, Vivaldi works under XWayland, but not yet Wayland-natively (WIP—or done?; it seems Cr85 (V3.3) needs a compile-time & also run-time flag for this (I don’t know how well it then works), which V doesn’t use). For example, I'm now writing this from Vivaldi under XWayland under Sway.
For me XWayland is a stopper & if I went Wayland before Vivaldi, I'd switch to a native browser (even with all the pain it means).
Switching to WL would be a hard process for me though, I don't like interlocked DEs (KDE, GNOME) but also I'm too lazy to set things up myself (esp. if I want to use a write-it-yourself, early WIP compositor).
Edit: corrected the information (hopefully)
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A disturbing lack of unixporn in this thread...
If nothing happens soon I will post my extremely boring Windows desktop with a full-screen Vivaldi in its default theme! I dare ya!
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@Pathduck Actually I watch *NIXPorn & love many of the setups there, but I need to finish the dashboard in my HTML plan & then convert all that into reality. Till then, I have what I’ve said.
Spoiler (the plan)
Of course, everything in max mode & Vivaldi how I have it now.
Default screen: The clock bar should be coloured according to batt status, the text in the middle is there just for fun (& only in the HTML)
Dashboard: Well, there’s quite a lot missing. Notice active [1, 4] & used [1, 3, 4, 8] tags. The orange squares are placeholder icons, the last empty flags have the exact shape I want (question is whether I’ll get it). Of course there should be (is in the plan) a nice expand animation when hovering the flags…
Oh how I love this dreaming!
wallpaper (also my current)
This is going far too OT…
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@Pathduck said in Show your V on your DT or WM.:
extremely boring
Answered prayer…
My V on my DT (Menu/Task bar and Dock hidden)
MacBook Pro Early 2015 | macOS 10.12.6 Sierra
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@Pathduck said in Show your V on your DT or WM.:
disturbing lack of unixporn in this thread
Never a more true word spoken! Tis a bit disappointing tbh.
Based on the very limited data available so far in this thread, it seems that i am very much an outlier wrt my V usage, coz i do not run it maximised, do retain all its UI chrome, & do retain a permanently visible Plasma panel .Weirdo am i.
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