Mozilla is advertising company

DoctorG

I think, they have to get more financial background by ads to in invest in their upcoming browser pollution called MozAI.

DoctorG

@luetage Yes, Moz bought a typical we-do-innovation-with-blah-blah-company.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, worth to add it to this site

RiveDroite

Yikes...this isn't a good look Mozilla.

Thot

Oh no, not again, not again a new browser! Just take one, and that’s Vivaldi!

Thot

@DoctorG said in Mozilla is advertising company:

I think, they have to get more financial background by ads to in invest in their upcoming browser pollution called MozAI.

<irony_on> Everybody knows that security and privacy can only be achieved through privacy-friendly digital advertising! <irony_off>

Sorry, Site in German:
Mozilla kauft Anonym …

Catweazle

@Thot, for US companies privacy is generally an foreignism which they don't know the meaning. You can look in their PP, they all start "Your privacy is very important to us", which in clear text means that your private data is important to them as they make money from it.

More, seeing investors of the new company:

Griffin, a software, social media, and Web3 gaming investment firm
Norwest, a business and healthcare investment firm
David Fischer, former CRO of Facebook
Julius Genachowski, former FCC chairman and board member of MasterCard
Jonah Goodhart, board member of Right Media, an ad company bought by Yahoo
Jon Leibowitz, former FTC chairman and National Consumers League board member
Eric Roza, founder and CEO of Datalogix (Oracle Advertising)
Eric Seufert, a programmer and marketing analystMore seeing

Thot

@Catweazle said in Mozilla is advertising company:

for US companies privacy is generally an foreignism which they don't know the meaning.

Digital Feudalism! Whereas the advertising industry has the reins in power.

Stardust

privacy-preserving

I think we heard this term before?

Anonym was founded in 2022 by former Meta executives

From creators of Facebook

We urgently need a third engine (and browser) because we out of options soon, one Ad Corporation controlling chromium, and now we have another Ad Corporation that has total control over Firefox - the last browser that is not based on chromium.

Mozilla, how could you do this to us!?

Catweazle

@Stardust, there ares still WebKit, well....better no, Goana and Qt, but they are also forks of Gecko and Chromium. Better staying with Chromium and making the best of it, no other way arround. Or talking with KDE to get back to the roots, forking their Konqueror browser with KHtml.

NetscapeNavigator

Time to switch to Vivaldi Browser, full-time.

I miss the days of Netscape Navigator, and jumped over to Phoenix, which later became Fire Bird, which ultimately became Firefox. It is a sad day, indeed, but at least there is an alternative, Vivaldi.

RiveDroite

@NetscapeNavigator welcome!

Dancer18

@luetage said in Mozilla is advertising company:

They buy only shit

Buy or sell?

newscpq

@NetscapeNavigator please be aware that Vivaldi is allowing the ADV of their partners (which remain unknown) through their Ad Blocker and that you have to manually untick the option in some pretty deep and hidden settting, because it's enable by default. Look for the setting called "Manage Ad Blocking Sources" and untick the option, called: "Allow ads from our partners (Support Vivaldi)".

luetage

@newscpq The partners aren’t unknown at all and it’s one of the ways to support the development of Vivaldi. If you right‐click that list and copy the origin you can look at the source, it’s a pretty small list ☛ https://downloads.vivaldi.com/lists/vivaldi/partners-current.txt

Also read https://vivaldi.com/blog/the-great-tracker-blocker-conundrum-technical/ and https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/how-ad-attribution-is-implemented/

newscpq

@luetage said in Mozilla is advertising company

it’s a pretty small list ☛ https://downloads.vivaldi.com/lists/vivaldi/partners-current.txt

Apparently, it includes Bing and Google, right?

luetage

@newscpq Please read the articles and inform yourself. The Google entries are only related to ad attribution, Google search is not a partner engine.

WerewolfAX

@NetscapeNavigator said in Mozilla is advertising company:

I miss the days of Netscape Navigator, and jumped over to Phoenix, which later became Fire Bird, which ultimately became Firefox.

Looks very similar to me. I was a hardcore Netscape user — I think my first one was Version 1 or 2 still on Windows 3.11 — switched to Mozilla later and went along with the evolution to Firefox. Was my main browser ever since, and I was a fanboy (including proudly wearing Firefox shirts *lol*)

But the development with Mozilla over the last few years became weird and now with the changed ToS and other involvements I finally jumped ships about 2 months ago to Vivaldi which is my new daily driver since then.

When I see what Mozilla is doing presently, I think it was the right decision. Even though the good times and the rebel times will never be forgotten. Sadly, it looks like Mozilla becomes what the once fought, and that is a shame. Especially in times like this where a truly free internet becomes more and more rare and everything becomes increasingly restricted and controlled.

newscpq

@luetage

what does "ad attribution" even mean?
Why would I be required to even try to understand a configuration file, with such an absurd complexity? https://downloads.vivaldi.com/lists/vivaldi/partners-current.txt
Is it really so difficult to explain in a few words what Vivaldi does?

Should I ask chatgpt?

No, sorry: the burdain of communication is on the shoulders of whom is communicating.

Newscpq

luetage

@newscpq That’s right, this needs to be communicated—and it has been communicated. Please read the articles, I don’t feel like copying and pasting their contents to this post. But here a link to the explanation of ad attribution ☛ https://vivaldi.com/blog/the-great-tracker-blocker-conundrum-technical/#:~:text=is broadly called-,ad attribution,-. As such%2C the and https://vivaldi.com/blog/the-great-tracker-blocker-conundrum-technical/#:~:text=What does all this mean for you%3F